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As others have said, Pederson was the brains behind the offense. Reich's job was to relay to the QB and essentially more hands off with playcalling. And, well, as this season has shown, he's out of his element both in design and practice. He seemingly showed zero ability to be effective when it comes to playcalling and coming up with innovative designs. His firing was well warranted. Whether you believe in Bryce Young or not, Reich did him no favors by being inflexible to Young's strengths, and the offense as a whole.

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Well we shall see how we do.

The Panthers are allergic to Clemson players. With that being said, he's not that good either.

I'll be at the game. Up in Nashville for Thanksgiving so figured I'd see this train-wreck in person.

Most likely to draw more eyes to the Eagles vs 49ers and not let it split with the Broncos - Texans

for all this experience they are very stubborn at sticking to a sinking ship in their playbook design. you'd think this experience would help them realize it's a lost cause and change it up. after all this experience should mean they're familiar with various different concepts. nah, instead they've duct taped themselves to the floor of this mariana trench bound ship.

that is also fair. this team is a downgrade objectively. but this team was touted as an upgrade across the board before the season. supposedly a complete oline with an upgraded wr group and an electric rb addition in sanders. it is wild for all the hype, they've looked worse in every facet. and yes fitterer deserves the boot first thing for constructing this poo show, but reich isn't helping either.

rhule sold us on snake oil but at least he made the team somewhat competent at times. even under him, they were slightly more disciplined than they are now (dbo sign for the win!). i've never seen a team unravel in one offseason to absolute gutter tier. it is past the midway point of the season and the offensive line keeps on getting miscommunication issues and straight up getting worse. bryce young still has little connection to any receiver outside theilen and still has timing/comfort issues with them. oh and frank reich's game management is also d league trash. like what in the fug, waste a timeout on a trash play and then kick a 59 yarder with a kicker who doesn't have a big leg? dysfunction everywhere. like no cohesion or anything. so much for an all star coaching staff of experience. all that for one of the worst teams in carolina history, if not THE worst.

Fitterer and Reich gone by tomorrow with Evero as interim and then promoted will make me happy.

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And any QB has had bad whiffs, doesn't make it a trend lmao.

I remember hearing somewhere this week that there's an argument to be made journeymen often are the best at being able to understand football concepts and are often more intelligent than starters in that regard due to picking up different playbooks. They may not be able to put it on the field the best (often due to physical/situational awareness limitations), but their football smarts are often pretty high.

Corbett and Bozeman getting beat double teaming is not a good look I'm appalled at just how incredible bad the oline has become in one year. Like from borderline elite to bottom of the league. Insane.

Young can throw deep. That's never been a concern. I could throw up plenty of clips from his collegiate film showing said deep ball. The reason he's not throwing deep now is because 1.) his receivers are inconsistent and unpredictable 2.) they're slow and can't separate reliably where Young can trust them and 3.) Young's got barely any time to even be able to hit deep balls if he could.

Bryce Young has zero chance to succeed in this offense and lack of talent. Frankly at this rate it may kill hos future. I have doubts even prime Peyton Manning would find success in this disaster of an offense. For those saying Young is a bust already just because CJ Stroud is showing out (props to him and he's the better QB at this point), well tell me which QB would succeed because there would be almost no one else who would. Young has his deficiencies, sure, but for crying out loud he's not getting a fair shot to even be able to do something. Expecting miracles every sunday is not how you develop a QB, and exactly how you ruin the progress of one. Reich should be charged with malpractice for this.

Foreman gashes us for 100+ while Miles Sanders - his "replacement" - doesn't sniff the field. DJ Moore says "lol" and has a career game against us. Gonna be ugly, I'd be shocked to see the Panthers pull off anything.

And I'll be the first to admit I was dead wrong. I had too much hopium with this staff and their experience. I took their bait hook line and sinker, thinking that they knew what they were doing. For all their experience, they've put together the worst team in the NFL. We have a QB who's shell shocked and needs just average NFL talent to shine. He is asked to make miracles every play, and he can't and it's killing his growth and frankly it's making him fall behind. Young has college film showing he can make good out of poo, last year is evidence of that. He took a subpar receiving group and oline and made them competitive in the collegiate realm. However, that's never what you want to ask your rookie to do when you're athletically limited. In addition, the complexity of the playbook is too much first year going in. Stroud's succeeding as the Texans are scheming to his strengths, opening up middle of the field views and largely having the playbook modernized and simplified where he can excell even with subpar talent. The Panthers have failed to accommodate Young similarly.

This. There's a ton of miscommunication that can largely be attributed to, well, trying to make grinders play finesse. Pretty much the whole o-line are out of their element. Reich's attempts at creating a WCO with an o-line that is not built for that is a tall order. For someone who claimed he'd fit the scheme to his personnel, well, he's doing a very poo job at it. From here, there are two options 1.) Reich admits his fault, revamps the playbook next year to tailor towards the strength of the o-line, which is power and downward movement vs lateral. Or 2.) Literally change up every olinemen to tailor to his WCO vision. Number 1 is hard but is very clearly the best option for the team if they want to start showing good stuff on offense. That may involve a coordinator change and Reich's influence being completely ripped away from the offense. Number 2 is nightmare scenario if Reich stays stubborn to his ways.

Last week Bryce Young played well and willed the Panthers to a win. This week he's unable to make miracles consistently for this poorly equipped team. Young's no Cam Newton and certainly is not on par with Stroud, but the cards are against him on this team. I question if Stroud could find success with this poo-show either.

Yeah some questionable decisions during that time. And I hate the lack of trying on 4th and 1, I get that sneaking out points is fine but scared me the Texans would catch up once the defense is gassed, and they nearly did and Bryce had to have a gamewinning drive.

I appreciate that post. Better perspective on your feelings and it's completely valid. I do think moreso the offense is heavily limited by personnel vs playcalling at this point. A transition period with WRs who can't block and yes, it is fair to criticize them meshing a lateral system for a power oline. I do think Brown showed better flashes vs Reich and should improve on it.

And Bryce Young was being pelted on all game against the Texans, and arguably was more pressured than Stroud. Stroud had a bad game, it happens, he's still a promising great rookie QB. It's okay to admit Bryce Young looked fantastic and showed a lot of promise today too, and that's who matters more.

Can vouch. Growl has been one of the more critical posters but super glad he's calling out the super extreme takes on the Young vs Stroud debate. Both will be great QBs, who cares. All that matters is Young is improving as the season goes on. Today, he showed plenty of improvement. Lots to be excited about.

Oh yeah Bryce was getting absolutely mauled all game. Far more than Stroud and prevailed. Bryce deserves plenty of credit for this win. His improvement has been super nice to watch.