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He may have mixed us up since I think Robby is responsible for his crap play and haven't been afraid to say so. I hope he (Robby) brings his A game because if we're gonna make something of this season a big part of it is Robby learning to catch... And Cam, as awesome as he is, has always needed receivers ready to catch the heat he throws. It's time for Robby to earn his paycheck.

Man those last 3 minutes, just listening to it all... And the ending with keep pounding... I can't believe this is real, I really hope this works out for him and for the team

Cam and Rhule are bigger people than I thought they were to make this happen. I wouldn't have blamed Cam at all for never coming back. But damn. Exciting times here, its like a whole new season, haha.

Christ you guys make mountains out of mole hills. Shaq wanted to talk about the game and their opponent and not Cam because he HAS to stay focused for arguably the toughest offense they've faced all year.

The OL has been better the last few weeks, and Cam should make them look much better too. It still may end up being the worst OL he's ever played behind, but I bet it looks better than when Sam was behind it... Cam is just otherworldly at avoiding pressure.

the end of that video... hahaha welcome home Cam! how can anyone dislike this man? I just never understood that fact...

I didn't think Rhule came off like an ass and it certainly sounded like he expected Cam to start after this week, without actually saying he expected him to start after this week.

Fair enough - sorry for going at you a bit! Sam is the worst QB in the NFL. I do think it is a testament to DJ that and despite that fact, he still has 79 yards per scrimmage per game, only 2 less than he had each of the last 2 years. That's rushing + receiving total. He has 712 yards from scrimmage. More TDs than last year at this point too. The one thing Darnold has been ok with is getting the ball to DJ... everything else... not so much, lol. But Chuba and Robby's drops earlier in the year really hamstrung us I think. You're right DJ was trending down the last couple weeks, but it hasn't really been extreme. Still 70+ yards against NYG (and that is with PJ sailing some balls to him or I think he passes 100 there), and the last 2 weeks have been a shitshow due to the offensive regression & wheels coming off Sam. Vs MN he probably has >100 yards if he doesnt drop a couple passes, but not all of that is on him (the TD drop definitely was tho). hopefully we see DJ excel with PJ or Cam or whomever it is that starts vs Arizona and for the rest of the season... although too much excellence may break the bank. I really hope Robby trends upwards so we can trade him tbh, heh.

Darnold is terrible, but if Robby is so moody as to start dropping balls in training camp because he doesn't like Darnold, he doesn't have a place on this roster, lol. Hopefully whatever is going on with Robby gets right since he can play well, but he's been his own level of terrible as well. Also DJ is not on pace for "by far" his worst statistical season, he's a few yards less per game passing than typical and with an extra game he may very well have his best statistical season in terms of raw total output, lol. In 15 games with TB he had only 4 TDs; he's already got 3 with Darnold, and he'll certainly add plenty more now that we have a competent QB. He's averaging 79 yards from scrimmage per game this season, he averaged 81 the last 2 years and significantly lower than that. Darnold is terrible but we don't need to make poo up to show it... It's visible in plenty of other ways. DJ is just good enough to get his regardless. Not the case for Robby.

This really isn't born out by the facts of his time at NY tho... He did have a usage decline with Darnold slightly, but nothing like this year, not even close, and he was still productive there... same YPC with and without Darnold at NY, and fewer than 1 reception less per game with Darnold. Similar TDs. Now that doesn't mean he *liked* darnold, which maybe is a bigger issue with him. tbh Robby hasn't played particularly well since midway thru last season... Dude's average just tanked.

I thought someone had said there were very preliminary inquiries made last week when we first found out Sam also had a hurt shoulder, but not sure what their source was. I think it is highly unlikely Rhule would make the call to Cam without some indication he'd listen... although maybe I've got Rhule wrong.

Some of you guys making waaaaaay too big a deal about shaqs comments. Shaq is dialed in to the next game, that's not a knock on Cam.

Watching just some of the highlights from last year, Cam definitely can still navigate a collapsing pocket... He'll need that here, heh.

It's a football move because we don't need to find a QB for 5 years from now. We need one now. We have a seemingly healthy CMC, 2 1k yard receivers and a super promising 2nd rnd pick, and an incredible, stacked D with a bunch of 1 year contracts about to expire. We've been in every game but 1 all year, and we have a real shot to make the playoffs. Once were in the playoffs all bets are off. Plus Cam could potentially solve QB for a couple years while we find the young guy for the next 5 years, without wasting more draft picks on retreads. Best of all we get a trial run of that this year for a few games for a cap hit that doesn't hurt us next year if it doesn't work out.

I dunno if I'm counted in your Darnold lover camp but I don't expect a miracle with Cam. However other posters have consistently pointed out Sam was making the OL look worse. I think that is somewhat true... So now we get to see what happens when he isn't there anymore..

Most backups - at least those with good physical tools - make mistakes when pressed into long term action, tho. That's a big reason they're backups and not permanent starters.

Sam's always been able to string a few good games together before whatever is going on in his head catches up to him... Backup role would fit that... He's supposedly a great locker room guy... And I do think most of his teammates respect his toughness and desire to win for them, even tho now it's obvious he can't do that across a season. We could do worse with a backup tbh... As we've shown

I don't think it's that simple. The rest of the guys all know Brady's offense. Cam will need to learn that offense. Brady is gonna need to really earn his keep to quickly adapt to Cams style and coach him up in the scheme. We've already seen some option offense with Darnold... I'd expect much more with Cam.

This decision is all upside tbh. Even if Cam doesn't perform here, most fans won't blame the team for trying. Cam is the best option we have at QB. He also fits the new identity we are trying to emphasize perfectly.

All I'm hoping for is a QB that can get the ball to our playmakers and avoid turnovers. Cam is more than capable of both of those things still. He got the ball to NE's playmakers... such as they were. Edelman had one of his best games of his career with him. Myers had a career year, and averaged 3 ypr more than he is this year. He gave D. Byrd multiple highlight reel passes. Career year for the dude with more than 600 yards. Byrd might be our 4th receiver... Or 5th lol. 5 of Cams 10 ints last year came in 2 games post covid... The rest of the year he was overall good at taking care of the ball. So Cam fits what we needed this year and potentially next too.

If anyone could get buy in from OBJ it would be Cam. But how can you look at our receivers and say that's an area we need improvement? This is gonna be the best WR group overall Cam has ever had...

You're killing my optimism here I do think it's a tough game. Arizona's D is pretty good and I don't think we will have an easy time rushing against it if we can't get the thread of the passing game going... But hopefully a couple of strikes from Cam can open things up. I do wish this move was made on Monday... Give Cam a full week... But now this is a real test of Brady's ability to coach IMO.

Yeah I think so too. Cam won't be perfect by any means... But tbh, he shouldn't need to be. We had a handful of decent drives the last couple weeks where the QB didn't need to do a damn thing, and instead gave the ball to the opposing team... So maybe with just a little bit of working Cam in can be enough. Cam is generally really good at protecting the ball (if you exclude his 2 post covid games, he had something like a 1.5% int rate. That's really good). if we have to lean on him to win us the game through some multi score comeback, that's unreasonable and probably won't work out... But if we can stay even or pull ahead and ride our D I think Cam's athleticism and dynamic playmaking will be enough.

Winning games isn't a fuging losing mentality, wtf... This is an attempt to win this year. Is Cam gonna lead us to the Superbowl? Unlikely, but he's got great weapons on offense and an exceptional D to lean on. But you don't get to a superbowl by losing games.

I agree, but for a team that thinks they can make the playoffs, they're gonna start the guy that gives them the best option to win. That's gonna be Cam. I think if Brady is all he should be we can implement a gameplan that emphasizes Cams strengths... Leans on the RB, utilizes our receivers and our two backs that are good out of the backfield, etc. I just think this team has enough talent on O that without film on Brady+CMC+DJ+Cam, defenses will be at a huge disadvantage.