mav1234

Although I think racism plays a big role in the labeling of black and white QBs, I think building around Darnold isn't about race but about the organization having different priorities from its current vs past management. It's hard for me to say the organization didn't put Teddy in a position to succeed for instance, but Cam rarely was until the damage was done unfortunately and we had basically ruined a potential HoF level talent...

THE Zack Sanchez I just made the mistake of looking at our draft history after round 2.

To an extent they did, especially the first year with the pair of TEs we had. But it took them years into his tenure to draft a WR in the first three rounds, and the OL was a huge problem and they never seemed to commit to fixing it the way they would positions on the defense.

My supervisor at NCSU loves macs so I have to use one at work. if I was on graphic design it'd be one thing... I've got a Samsung phone but am moving to Canada and getting an unlocked Pixel to give it a try for my new phone plan.

Its working okay for me. Chrome/android.

Kaylee Horn??

If Darnold doesn't light the league on fire with the WRs he has around him, well...

That's actually better than my impression of our success rate in the 2nd round... That stretch from 2003 to 2013... Good god.

I think picking up the option was always the plan regardless of the draft. Certainly, even if we had drafted Fields, I think Darnold was more likely to start Day 1. But I was actually totally fine with that because I like giving a rookie time to adjust and not having to feel like they MUST go out there and light it up right away. And of course if a rookie beat Darnold out in camp that says a lot about Darnold and/or the rookie, haha. As to another QB, I expect us to get one in FA. Darnold will be the presumed start over them I think, but hopefully there's still a competition. Darnold may be completely ruined from New York, or never have been that good, and I'd rather they have someone in camp to push him a little. I don't mind taking a very late round QB if there's someone they think is raw but might develop... but to your point, I would rather 2nd/3rd/4th go on building the D and OL though. I don't know enough about prospects this far down to comment on the best route there.

I liked Fields a lot but I don't assume the Panthers are totally done at QB yet. I don't think they're going to ride with just this setof QBs. But this is definitely another building year. I also would buy that Darnold with Brady could be better than Teddy was. I highly doubt he's going to be elite, which is why I wanted Fields (higher ceiling imo)... but I think we will build a competitive team and then get our QB down the line.

Someone may have already pointed this out, but I think the reason for the wait was actually a smokescreen to encourage teams into thinking we still wanted a QB, when we were very unlikely to draft one. If teams think we might go QB it raises the odds they try to move ahead of us for one,increasing the odds we get who we want. Obviously thst didn't happen but there was no reason to move on the fifth year before we needed to.

I think we made a mistake passing on Fields but if this pick shores up the D and if Darnold can be rehabilitated we'll be in a good spot. I do think Darnold is better than the Jets but pretty sure his ceiling is nowhere near Fields. Oh well.

this is nonsensical. Its about the talent that is there. The Panthers didn't believe in Fields and that is fine, but I've been watching him for a couple years and think he is significantly better than what some of his critics are saying. We'll see I guess, hopefully he can do well with the Bears.

I'm only frustrated because Fields was still available, and we absolutely need to get QB right. But, its hard to argue with Horn in the range he was drafted and CB was a huge need.

horn... wtf.

ugh. I bet we don't take Fields. Watch it be a fuging CB.

Taking a bit.. maybe negotiating a trade... but I think we should take Fields unless we're getting a second first rounder out of it

if we take a CB here I will lose my mind

if we pick Jones, I'll be fuging livid, but I readily admit I'm no talent evaluator ... Really hope we go Fields.

if Sewell AND Fields are on the board and we take Jones...

true, most of Brady's stuff is just being sore/whining, as opposed to Rodgers that is actually apparently awful.

I think Brady is rumored to be a bit of a dick. But nowhere near Rodgers level.

There's a huge difference between treating a player like a rookie and saying a player *is* a rookie. The treatment is imo to refer to the fact this is a clean start and they aren't judging him on his past failures.

That's basically what they always said... Darnold gave them flexibility so they didn't need to reach this draft, which I took to mean trade huge assets to move up.

Call me crazy but I care more about results than whether Tepper is telling his football people to draft a QB. If we end up with a franchise QB after this off-season, I really don't care what hand Tepper had in that. It's pretty clear he isn't directing every move or take. If he is for this particular case... his team, and if it works out, good.