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I'm not needing to be Philly but that was some BS. The 'you are standing and interrupting the other fans' is still here for sure. It's a freaking boo and chant, how is that much different than a wave or cheering?

It's boo time. Watching the videos of fans chanting to fire Rhule at the NBA game was great. Carolina fans showing out and looking more galvanized that they have since 2015 is the only positive to be found. The wine and cheese crowd will hate all of this, fantastic. Maybe it's another step towards having a real fanbase that we just have never had here. JR regulated the stadium so hard that booing could get you kicked out by a yellow shirt. Cheer and boo, it's all just feedback and it needs to be heard or we will see the same BS year in and out like we have.

It's all too crazy. There is way too much crap flying around this. Is it just AB being crazy AF? Is it the Bucs being scummy again? Could they have shot him up with enough painkillers for him to make that stellar exit? Can AB really be believed after pulling years under unstable behavior and actions? I have no idea but it is the most exciting angle of our last game.

Knowing our fanbase, empty seats and opposing fans is more likely. But yeah, that's where we are at.

I tried to watch the game Sunday and fell asleep, woke up thinking I was in a nightmare and turned it off and went to watch a movie when I realized what was going on. It's the worst I have seen since the team started up. I keep waiting for a change from the downward spiral but it just keeps going. I'm not giving any money or good will to this team until they do better. It's enjoy my boos because there is nothing to cheer for territory.

Just sounds like a wasted pick to me. That scenario in this draft class sounds inevitable with this crew. They chose wrong twice, no idea why anyone expects different at this point. I guess the 'broken clock is right twice a day' approach can work. Well whatever QB they go with, they probably get over drafted so they should make a nice check but yeah, that is really flawed and stinks for them.

I wondered if they put that crew on Sunday on that game because they didn't know anything about us and would just use the talking notes. Last two games the narrative seemed to be getting worse and worse. Some weird names popping up with that BS online, it did make me wonder where the push is coming from. Rhule's agent I guess. Those people have no credibility in my eyes. No way you see all of this and don't talk about failure being just as likely if not more so.

It's like Hurney never left, he just went for a hair cut and a beer. This team is so poorly run. This isn't bad luck, it's bad employment.

Interviews, prodays and private workouts. I wish a simple test was enough to determine football IQ.

No idea what happens right now. I know if this crew picks a QB I have zero faith we won't be looking for another one when they are finally fired. Hell that might he true for the oline picks also.

And JR was a nice old man who turned out to be a racist sexual harraser. He absolutely looks like a Haslam so far. I love thr idea of being saved by Colbert but I'm not sure he saves 2022. We would need to being him in asap, deffinatly before any moves are made.

Then you took some LSD sir

Either way this staff is getting crapped on until they get fired. If anyone is expecting anything to change with the new year or offseason with them, buckle up for misery.

That's the thing, control in school is god level. The fugging towns will hide criminal activity for the team, it's that big. The NFL is a lot harder. Saban comes to mind, he was built for school. He was a very effective HC in the NFL, I just don't know enough details to be comfortable with him. I didn't like his GM who had the owner on a leash but the 49ers did some weird stuff back then. I have reservations and unless we start talking to him I'm not going to do any research. I would look at Leftwich, also a former player. It may be too soon but that's a guy with a small resume that I see much more positives than negatives. I also don't see potential bagage that is a red flag for a dysfunctional organization, which we sure look like right now. There would be options if we wanted to not be awful next year.

[email protected] That's my guess

They tried to trade him to Cleveland and then it all fell apart stuff really got weird. Players were having criminal charges and there were nasty leaks in house. I know not all of that was him but I do have reservations about the guy. A HC that doesn't or can't work well with others is not something I need more of at this time.

It keeps going lol

I have no idea what worse could look like. I would take any man shaped stationary object over those two easily at this point.

I think this was Baker's prove it year up there. Baker is basically a better Sam, lots of comparisons on Twitter. The Browns got Berry, the guy we should have fired Hurney for and they are making smarter moves since. I honestly am not sure on Baker's injury or who forced what. They could pick up a rookie and play Baker on his 5th year option next year while working on project rookie, I would. Or they could trade Baker to a sucker like us for what we gave up for Sam, I would if I was them at this point. Still they are competing while we are not. That stinks big time.

I agree with all of that but they will still fug it up. It's what they do since the Stache bought them. They used to be a small market team now they are another clown show. They will most likely ruin their QB, waste their cap and still be picking top 5 next year.

Can he play OG?

And we used to be mediocre. Stuff changes. We are the new Lions/Browns until we change that.