Basbear

I was wrong about him, didnt think a "LB" was worth a top ten(11) pick. That guy is a alien, I knew about his insane workout numbers, but seen a many not have a impact with the same type numbers. Hes been a havoc making machine no matter if its DE or LB. Glad chuck didnt take my bet about Jamin Davis having the better year than Parsons. Hes had one of the biggest impact rookie or not in the whole league.

Same comments came form a super fan in the philly game. Hes been to most games for the last 20 years and few of the away ones too. Said he never had this feelings before; mid-3rd he said the whole stadium was 70ish eagle fans and it was their home game. I tried to say "typical panthers fans, forntrunners, transplanet, etc... " He shut that down and said this was different. Hes a straight shooter and wasnt panic type fan, I was shocked at his comments. Same dead energy and atmosphere. Hes the type that doesnt care if its raining, cold, or poor team...hes there.

I agree, his two year QB solutions were like a Mumbai sewage blowback. OL has also been a joke given the choices.

Hire a company to run your SM, thats modern sports 101. If you dont, you run the high risk of posting something like this.

Have the panthers ever lead the league in penalties for the whole year? I swear rhule prides himself and his staff on being great developers and better on field teachers......this team can not stop getting flagged, plus it feels like most are on 3rd down for defensive and all downs for O.(mainly 1st down and the struggling unit is now 1st and 20...). Gotten worse week after week as well...

All these are my best guesses 1. Around 90, started one game and replace Daley early game(so 60+30) 2. Huge mixed bag of great ones and current level panthers ones. Played like a rookie 3. https://www.lineups.com/nfl/snap-counts/carolina-panthers-snap-counts I dont recall the real number of snaps at RT and OG. Above is the list and my guess is 20ish at RT and remains at OG 4 see #2 I do think one game at LT had like a 80 PFF rating and I didnt remember that being off any form my eyes.(I hate PFF, maybe someone else can link rating) Again hes not played worse than Daley/coofus Miller/Paradis/Scott. Coaches tend to protect rookies cause ______ .

Do yourself a huge favor and just be at the hospital before the draft starts. Finesser showed he liked to pile up picks. The only real way to do that is trade the 1st. He is friendly with teams that have multiple picks, sooo its like 50/50 he trades to pick. Trading falls off FAST after the beginning of the 4th....... currently that is the next pick after the 1st. So if he wants to add picks, hes got to move that 1st......unless he trades future picks....

Thats the real deal. Technique is king and maybe the first 3 items on the list of importance. Ive said it before about Dbrown and the same gos for Chirst, if either of them are not better than what panthers drag out weekly....CUT them cause theres no hope... Thing is Christ has had some good snaps, but not enough for Rhule/staff.....weird. All I can think of is they are trying to protect their ego form getting crushed and ruining them mentality. I believe he dropped down boards due to age.

Im pissed too. Plus if you survived the 2010 season, this should be cake. Short side comment- 2010 was the last time I went to a panthers game. Game was vs the bears and I dont think panthers crossed the 50 over twice for the whole game. By some miracle panthers had a chance in the 4th, crowd had been quiet for 3 hours(i mean nothing panther did gave reason for cheers). Still in the 4th my section/friend/near whole stadium of the remaining panther fans cheered with the hope panthers could do something with pickles.....Of course nothing happened and as we were walking down those long concrete ramps. I looked my friend dead in his eyes and said I will never come back here. Since then some light at the end with the creation of roaring riot. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Be honest- How did you feel when the 3-0 happened? And what were your NON-homer expectations for the team? (before the start) All those coaches you listed, each team had faaar more talent than the panthers. Browns roster is full of 1sts, best DE, and they have the best OL in the NFL. Dallas had Elliot, Dak(top 5 QB), best WR group in the league and a top 8 OL. Dallas's D had best group of LBs, Dlawence, young Diggs. Giants had Barkley, Jones, and a legit group of WRs&promising TE. Washington much closer to the panthers, still at that time had the best DL in all of NFL and we saw scary terry ruin Djak's huge payday hopes. Washington also had BSheiff and Twilliams on OL(trade him to 49ers). And when we played; Joe and Ron 100% out-coached the panthers up and down on game day. I dont defend wrong. Lastly hate to do this- What if panthers win against failcons?( Trying to gauge how bio-polar you are, since thats 95% of the board thinking......) Plus what if panther shock some teams and make the playoffs, will you forgive Rhule and want to keep him&staff? I think you and all the poster should re-think why you have these feelings of misery. Im tried of losing too, but my god this team AT BEST was 2022 away form legit competing.... If you think otherwise, whos fault is that?? Guess Im going to Keep pounding and everyone else can keep whining. (until the offseason...)

I can confirm....Im sure they were at least 35 in and maybe longer... Im with the Rhule on this...(motherfugler)......much prefer long arms.... AT ALL SPOTS, even kicker!! Still if you can play without your knuckles dragging the ground, thats all that counts! If ANY player is worst than panther starting OL, cut them, no hope at all....

Look up his history, not talking football...

That did little to support Rhules case.....its 3x the damage when national medias bags on you, cause the normies follow the lead...

You must have a superhero power to make you immune against toxic behavior...

It would help solve a unknown weakness, so doubt they put in a claim.....

I always said that, there are numbers I want.....BUT if you can get the job done IDGAF about "muh numbers" Thanks for the update, gave up watching Rhule pressers around week 7. I can take coach-speak, some talking down to, and a tad of the preaching.......The unnecessary lying broke me.

All points are valid and correct, not defending Sam. I was 100% against that move and have plenty of posts sounding off when it happened and soon after as well. Staff/Rhule have made colossal mistakes at the QB spot for 2 full years(Cam save ??) and unless a miracle happens it will be a 3rd given the 5th year pickup. Like I said if you want to focus on negatives, there are a few. I can say for the 14th time, they gave a false hope with that 2020 season. Plus remember the no fans for most games and other coofus BS that Rhule had to over-come. That was the hardest start in NFL history for the start of ones coaching career. NO OTAs, NO rookie camp, only 29 days of training camp and NO preseason games to gain experience for the least experience staff in the league! No scouting college players, face time player meetings, insane travel rules, etc etc. You stated how well they played and everything was against him/team. Did everyone forget @Verge @CRA@Zod ???? This stuff didnt happened years ago, just last year. Gold fish memory now controls teh huddle. " I WANT RESULTS RIGHT NOWWWW!!!!!!" Feels like most people on here eat dinner via microwave...... Very painful seeing posters as yourself, ladypanther, cra, k53 and other smart veterans commenting.

I agree

Agree. Rhules wife Meatballs recipe needs to sent to the government, be a huge edge in the russia/china/northkorea talks.

Texans at least show up and play hard, GM Bill was the only GM below Smarty Marty Herniay..... He should get another year cause jesus and all. I heard 3 weeks ago no chance Zimmer gets the axe, now I heard 1% and maybe he wants a break.....Owner's love should keep him around.....but love to hire Zimmer and let him go mad scientist with all the DBs. Im in the "give Rhule a 3rd camp" and dont have a lust list...unless an not foreseen move/fire happens.

panthers took the cheese....

And nothing else, unless you count Djax before Rhule/coached him up some. I'll add Moton, i know you were not trying to name everyone. Shaq was hated by 90% of this board and called a jag, before this season. Cam had not been healthy since 2015 and wanted a huge "commitment". So in the real world all he had was CMC, Moore, Moton, and Burns that were among the top 20 of their play spot. Lets see thats 53-4= 49. Rhule needs to find close to 40 NFL players!! Thats AWFUL, no other way to see it. Now into year 2, the fans demand this team be a 13 win unit?? Has anyone looked arounf the NFC and seen that panthers are 1 game within playoff while playing poor? Many other team are playing poor just like the panthers, near 20 teams are with the panthers it seems. I argue that panthers were the worse roster at that time, Jets could be proven as worse. Plus depending on how much you rate having a tiny towel Watson, texans. Lions too, depends on how you rate Stafford. Still no debate they were in the bottom 3. Those teams have been very busy at adding draft picks(good ones) to the roster while panthers did not. They lost Reid(100+tack safety) Luke(hofer) bradberry(kept eilite WRs in check) Vbulter(best season in 19, goodbackup) addinson(9 sack machine for years) Thomas davis (legend) GMcCoy(HOFish) BIrvin(solid NFL starter) Golsen(Hofer) DPoe(run stuffer) DWiliams(better RT than Moton) GVR(decent OG/backupC) Cockwell(dog, good backup DB) Thats around 60% of the snaps and stats, largest in the NFL at the time. And 95% of the leadership. LOOK AT IT! open your eyes and mind!! Also that year had around 45 million in dead cap(thanks herniay) This year close to 45 AGAIN!! Reason alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll that out, all the haters need too.

I mean again, did Rhule take over a power-house talent rich team? Hell no, maybe the worse team in the NFL. Now everyone is demanding this youngest team in the NFL, that was ALSO one the oldest team the NFL less than two years ago.... this team is now a 13 win team?? All in the 1.75 year span?? Now we get upset at every loss and want to burn it down?? @saX man please amigo, send me some coping drugs....