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Rookie year Young being better than peak Darnold would be a nice start. Throw in a better offensive staff and it would make for OROTR.

Does he have Corral above him? Simms loved Corral.

I get that but CMC had availability issues here and we still got a nice return for him. I know he is a tier above Cook, but the talent is definitely there. I didn’t know about the fumbles though. None of these big contract RBs have really worked out…

I saw where the Vikings might release Cook post June 1st. That’s crazy he is still a great RB…

Definitely Chark, I think Thielen is the vet/semi coach on the field for the WRs and he is very reliable on 3rd down. We are counting on him the next couple years while our young guys develop.

I mean the team that drafted Stroud wanted Young over him to a degree in which they called Chicago and were going to trade up from 2 to draft him. I was a Stroud guy, but that really got me pumped about Young when I read that.

Monty Williams is now available… https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/37644346/sources-suns-dismiss-coach-monty-williams-4-seasons

I mean even his second year he was breaking playoff records for most sacks taken in a win and that was after some improvements from his rookie year. It was bad and the Bengals were clearly the worst team in the league the prior year. They earned their top pick QB. The Chase comment is the whole point and we agree. When the Bengals drafted Chase plus Higgins had a year under his belt the offense became elite and life was much easier for Burrow. His rookie year was a different story.

He definitely seems focused and aware of areas he needs to work on. I even like his comment on first purchase. Smart guy who doesn’t want any distractions.

I heard the Saints were going to take him right after us had we not.

His rookie year the Bengals didn’t have too much. It was an awful OL that helped him get his ACL injury and a rookie Higgins. He probably had Mixon but again with no OL. One he got Chase and Higgins started developing the offense became elite. I believe that’s what he is referring to. Also he has been a Levis fan since we started talking about this group of QBs.

No one should be looking for the next Mahomes. He is a damn unicorn that landed with an offensive mastermind in Reid. His mental makeup plus arm strength is extremely rare not to mention he does things in the field that a QB should never be coached to do. He just somehow makes it work. Mental makeup is the most important thing for a QB. Burrow, Brees, Manning, Brady etc became HoF QBs with average or below average athletic ability because of their mental makeup. I will say this though. With Young’s brain and our staff, I could see him becoming an upper tier QB in the NFC sooner vs later. Mainly because most of the elite QBs not named Hurts play in the AFC. Also Stroud, AR, and Levis all went to the AFC so life will be harder for them.

I wouldn’t be surprised, but if Tannehill is still looking decent and they are in the playoff race (some big ifs), I think he sits. If they look bad and are out of the race I think they go ahead and start working him in. With their OL still being retooled and lack of weapons it might be better for him to sit. Next year they probably flip Henry for some change and add some weapons.

Yeah he landed in a nice spot where he can sit a year and develop. He might have a decent career there if they get him some weapons.

I don’t think you keep Cousins and draft someone like Young who is pro ready day 1. I also see where they are wanting to move on from Cook. Those players were probably involved if needed plus who knows…

Agreed. I just don’t see many concerned about his arm strength. His height/frame, sure.

Below-average arm strength and average release quickness Arm strength limitations Lacks elite arm strength. You may think that, but most scouts/draft experts thought arm strength was Burrow’s biggest weakness. Most of the ones I’m reading on Young are calling his arm strength average or adequate. You could argue scouts/draft experts are claiming Young’s arm is slightly stronger than Burrow’s.

You’re just use to seeing a guy like Cam. Baker had what 1 or 2 inches and 10 pounds on him? Seeing that from the distance these pictures were taken is impressive. People are just hyper focused on it…

I love seeing vets like Smith and Luke helping in practice. It’s is nice to see how much Smith has matured since playing.

Yeah you can go back and read the draft profiles. Below average arm strength is usually listed as a weakness. Also about Manning The number one thing scouting reports got wrong on Manning was that he had a limited upside. This was a knock on him as he didn’t have the arm a player like Leaf had coming out of college and was a pure pocket passer. While there was truth to his limited upside physically he had unlimited potential overall. As he grew as a pro he understood the game even more which helped him consistently make the correct reads in the passing game or make changes at the line of scrimmage. These two skills were things that ended up making him an all-time great.

He can make any throw that Burrow can. Is that fair?

I hope people are actually checking some of this data being provided. https://www.footballdb.com/stats/penalties-player.html Penalties by OL Icky had 11 which was towards the top but not 13 (which was the top). For context he had one more than Tunsil who is considered a solid LT. Only 4 of those were holding (4 false starts and 4 "other"). Icky is fine. SI gave us an A for drafting him in a post season review Ekwonu struggled a bit out of the gates, but that was expected. Offensive linemen usually have the toughest transition to the NFL and it didn't help that he had to go up against Myles Garrett in Week 1. He improved as the season went on, dominating in the run game and evolving as a pass protector. Ekwonu wasn't perfect, but he had about as good of a year as you would have hoped for him to have.

He doesn't have an elite arm, I agree. He is more on par with Joe Burrow, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, and Tom Brady. These players offset the average NFL arms with elite accuracy and anticipation. I like to think of Young's style/skillset as a more elusive mini Burrow. Most people have Burrow as the 2nd tier QB behind only Mahomes so I will be more than happy with this ceiling/potential as any other prospect.