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Honest question. If Tepper was completely removed and say Fitt, Brown, Caldwell all wanted Young while Reich wanted Carr which we passed on. Do you really think McCown (the qb coach) on even Reich would really put up much of a fight for Stroud. I do think Young or Stroud were most of our staff's 1A and 1B as they were on many analysts'. To me it seems clear Fitt was a Young guy from the beginning with his processing, point guard nonsense and never mentioning size, arm strength etc... Brown is adamant about being a Young guy and with Caldwell being the one to take over the QB room now it seems pretty clear he was a Young guy. I think we were just wrong picking Young over Stroud as a whole. It happens all the time I mean Mitch was picked over Mahomes and Brady went late in his draft. I just don't think Tepper was banging the table overriding anyone who wanted Stroud. I think more people wanted Young and he was 100% on board with it because he was a Young guy as well. It does look like Tepper rushed things and forced this trade up too soon IMO.
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Frank Reich Fired as Panthers HC - Official
ForJimmy replied to NJPanthers12's topic in Carolina Panthers
They could fire the hell out of me if they want to make me that money for 10 months of shitty work. That's probably why Tepper dropped the F bomb in the locker room. He realizes how much money he just lost. -
That's kind of what I thought. He seems interested in building his portfolio in Charlotte to me...
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For people complaining about the "firings" and not the "hirings" do you all thing he shouldn't have fired Rivera or Rhule? Everyone was pretty happy with both firings when they happened. I guess the only one in question is Reich which I don't think many were interested in keeping around. There is a HIRING issue without a doubt, but I think most of Tepper's firings have been at the right time. He needs to get rid of Fitt this offseason to pair his new GM and HC together.
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I think it was a majority with Reich not really caring because he wanted Carr. Maybe Reich preferred Stroud, but he would have been an easy sell to switch to Young. If say Fitt, Caldwell, and Brown wanted Young with Reich preferring Carr do you think the QB coach in McCown would make too much of a stink about wanting Stroud. He probably mentioned who he preferred but he was also high on Young as an analyst before he took the QB Coach job.
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Tepper said he chimed in once the decision was already made. He clearly wanted Young but Fitt, Brown, and others (probably Caldwell) had already voted him as the choice. With that said I'm sure Tepper made comments after the Pro Day visits and who knows who that swayed.
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It wasn't some shocking overreach that Young went 1. Most places had him as the top QB and yes they were wrong, but the narrative is taking a crazy turn. Tepper didn't make us reach for some random QB while everyone else wanted Stroud. The only reason Stroud was the leader at first is because of his style of play and Reich's style of offense. People had concerns about Stroud under pressure which has been proven to be a nonissue so far.
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Yeah he had an established HoF QB with some left in the tank and he made it work. Did they even win a playoff game though? I'm sure Sirianni as his OC helped to a degree as well. They seemed to work well together.
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Frank made it work with Wentz… oh wait they traded him after a year. Luck? No he retired after a year of Frank and getting hit on every play… Matt Ryan?? Nope he was washed up like everyone thought. Frank made it work with the Eagles when Pederson was calling plays.
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Frank wanted Carr
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They get carried away as usual. Tepper wasn't calling plays and didn't overrule everyone by selecting Young. You could tell Fitt wanted Young the whole time. Thomas Brown is a big Young guy as well. Everyone wants a scapegoat, but this mess was a collaborated effort.
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Love Brown as an Auburn fan he is one of my favorite players. I agree in building a defense around him, but I am also ok if we do a FULL rebuild and trade off our players for draft assets. Trade off any player with a good value return and rebuild from scratch is an option as well.
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Classic Reich. As seen by our OL and overall offense not fitting the scheme. Reich picks his scheme and forces the players into it not matter their skillset. It's dumb and dated.
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We jumped to 1 because Houston wasn't moving fast enough. We were afraid we would miss on Young/Stroud if they took too long, so we jumped them to pick one and then preferred Young over Stroud if given the choice. It doesn't mean it was the right choice, but the story adds up. Houston eventually didn't think it was worth it to jump to 1 so they just took whichever one we didn't. Ryan said they had Stroud and Young as 1A and 1B.
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Greg Olsen says he is interested in Panthers HC Job
ForJimmy replied to usmcpanthers's topic in Carolina Panthers
Can’t be worse than dead last with no first round pick… lol. It’s just comical at this point. -
Greg Olsen says he is interested in Panthers HC Job
ForJimmy replied to usmcpanthers's topic in Carolina Panthers
Luke will make a great DC one day. -
Greg Olsen says he is interested in Panthers HC Job
ForJimmy replied to usmcpanthers's topic in Carolina Panthers
Isn’t Brady taking his job, or did that fall through? -
No Bo Nix please! Watched him get benched at Auburn when he didn’t have a ton of talent around him. He is older like Pickett was too.
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It’s becoming repetitive sheep talk when people don’t like any outside thought. Just yell cope at people.
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He is also doing that. Hence Stroud being the better choice than Young.
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Man you are eager to use this cope word. Let me slow it down for you. Stroud is better than Young and should have been the top pick. Can you handle that comment? Ok Houston’s staff also did a better job than ours in creating a roster for a rookie QB to have success in. Is this the comment that bothers you? Literally both comments are insulting our staff and roster including Young.
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lol why can’t Stroud be better AND be in a better position with his team? Both things can be true.
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We will recalibrate and regroup under a new coach and hopefully GM. If Young sucks again next year he will lead us to our new QB in 2025 where our cap is wide open as well. I’m just glad they are changing it up to a degree.
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The QB isn’t the only issue with this team. Pretty much the entire offense (Reich’s specialty) is a disaster.