ForJimmy

You are right. It was one of those 3.

Yeah he couldn’t get those 80 yards Burrow did…..

Tinderbox movement coming.....

Bosa had a quiet game after his big payday.

His arm strength was considered average coming out of college. I remember people questioning the decision to trade for Hill because they doubted Tua could get those deep balls to him. It just shows all you need is average arm strength and good timing/rhythm to hit those deep passes. There is no reason Young can't do the same.

Burrow is listed as healthy. If he is legitimately still injured then the Bengals are dumb playing him because that could really make his injury more severe. I think he was just very rusty. He threw like 4 picks week one last year and I don’t think he was injured then.

Oh poo… I hope Rodgers is ok. Like him or not him playing is good for the NFL.

2 yards short of 100 all purpose yards. That’s pretty solid coming off an injury. People are just hating on him because of the fumble.

Hmm I wonder if we can make BC our backup swing tackle when Corbet comes back from his injury. I could be wrong but isn’t LG Zavala’s natural position?

Some people are just looking at his stature and assuming that ball has less velocity than most NFL QBs and it's simply not the case. His arm strength is fine, but he is usually a touch/accuracy thrower which means you won't see as many Cam style lasers thrown towards his targets. He can zip it in there when he needs to, but that's not going to be the norm.

Yeah he lack of elite arm strength and athletic ability is why teams were split over him and Leaf. There were mentions of him being at his ceiling and overachieving. Young can zip it when he wants. I don't see an NFL throw that he can't make. Regardless if there is a difference it's small (good in the NFL vs average) not at the top of the league and not at the bottom. Both are somewhere in the middle.

I was reading his draft profile when I saw the good not great arm strength. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2050587-looking-back-at-nfl-draft-profiles-from-back-in-the-day Also mentioned was his velocity not being good. While athleticism has never been Manning's calling card, he's proven that waffling throws and lack of mobility were no obstacles at all. The ball velocity question seems laughable now, but back in the day it really did pale in comparison to Leaf's cannon shots down the field. Here is one for Brady Negatives: Poor build. Very skinny and narrow. Ended the '99 season weighing 195 pounds and still looks like a rail at 211. Looks a little frail and lacks great physical stature and strength. Can get pushed down more easily than you'd like. Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush. Lacks a really strong arm. Can't drive the ball down the field and does not throw a really tight spiral. System-type player who can get exposed if he must ad-lib and do things on his own.

I'm not sure it was. He had average to below average NFL arm strength (good not great is a common term used). That's about where Bryce is IMO. They are both rhythm throwers who have elite accuracy and throw to where the WRs are going to be before they are there. It makes for some bad misses when the wrong routes are ran, but is a thing of beauty when it's firing on all cylinders. Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison Sr were elite route runners which paired perfect with Peyton's arm/style.

What would his red flags be and why is he universally considered the top prospect over Maye in this draft?

Peyton's arm was never elite. His vision and accuracy was. If Young was 6'2" he would have been one of the cleanest prospects to come out in a while. His weakness was his size, but that really wasn't much of an issue yesterday.

That's the most frustrating part. We truly looked like the better team but just kept making bad mistakes. However we all knew there will be growing pains this year.

I think he knows this. A lot of his incompletions were throw aways with a couple intentional dirt throws because the play blew up. One INT was just a great read by Bates and the second Young just didn't see the safety (Bates again).

Why would you tank for Maye when Williams is in this class? Williams is QB1 in this next class and it's not really that close.

I doubt he will bust. Worst case for him is he never becomes elite, but is just an average NFL starter. Even then we just need to build a solid team around him and wait for an eventual replacement like the Chiefs did with Smith/Mahomes.

Bijan is legit. I agree.

Luvu had a bad missed tackle in the backfield on Bijan's TD play.

and he had 4 other guys do better than him in receiving on that same team with the same QB. He is a high WR2 IMO. Never been great at getting TDs and would disappear some games without getting separation. He is solid at YAC, but has left some to be desired in route running. We could definitely use him, but he isn't some game changer the huddle is making him out to be now that he is gone. To show the full picture Fields was 24/37 for 216 yard 1 TD and 1 INT plus 59 yards on scrambles while getting pressured more than any QB in week 1. Moore contributed 2 catches for 25 yards. If only we had that we would have won....

No way. We had 3 TOs on the road (4 if you can't the failed 4th down conversion). On top of that our punt returned pinned us on the 1 yard line. I remember plenty of games where Moore couldn't get separation until the game was already over. What did Moore have yesterday with the Bears?