BrianS

I don't see any way to sell the fan base on keeping him another year. Even if we manage to win a couple meaningless games at the end, we have not looked like a better team this year.

Completely agree on Bienemy. Reid's OC have been awful when they moved on. Likewise with Leftwich, he smells like another Adam Gase to me. Propped up by an all timer of a QB. I like Hackett. Set aside his time in Green Bay for a sec. When looking at his time with the Jags, keep in mind that the last time the Jags went to the playoffs they did so with Hackett as the OC, they won two games in the playoffs before finally losing to the New England Brady's at New England by four points. All with Blake *(&$@ing Bortles at QB.

Another topic here got me thinking, and then digging. We continue to see our QB's throwing interceptions left and right. We are frustrated. Understandable. And I don't think it's on the QB anymore. Let me show you what I dug up. Last year, the Denver Broncos were the most intercepted team in the NFL. Vic Fangio, HC. Pat Shurmur, OC. This year, the Broncos are the 10th *least* intercepted team in the NFL. All while employing our castaway, Teddy Bridgewater at QB. Last year, the Carolina Panthers were tied with the Jags as the 4th most intercepted team in the NFL. Matt Rhule, HC, Joe Brady, OC. This year, the Panthers the 2nd most intercepted team in the NFL. Sam Darnold, PJ Walker, Cam Newton. Doesn't matter. We now have seen four QB's play in the Joe Brady system. All of them have looked like turnover machines. TB5 leaves, and he reverts to being the solid game manager he's always been. We've been blaming our QB's for throwing picks, and I'm utterly unconvinced this is their fault. Any of them. Teddy is looking more credible by the day at this point.

That's actually not completely necessary. The language is interesting in that it says "fired or informed they won't be back". I can definitely see a scenario where Tepper says "Matt, you won't be back next year". That allows Rhule to finish out the year and doesn't put us in a worse spot with no one really capable of stepping up in the interim. It allows Tepper to get moving on finding the next guy.

Dumping Joe Brady was never going to fix the problem within the season. There is a reason it takes an entire offseason to install an offense. The play design is lackluster, the situational calling of the plays is uninspired and many of the players executing the plays are subpar. It's easy math really. On average, an NFL team scores 24 points. In games where we score 24+, we are 3-2. In games we score less than 24, we are 2-6.

May I introduce you to Terrace Marshall Jr?

Arm length doesn't matter if you can't stay in front of your man. I'm looking at you Dennis Daley.

*DISCLAIMER* - I am very much in favor of finding out of BC is a NFL tackle. I have been all along. However . . . Except they didn't. Brady: If you believe arm length is that important, that's fine. However, here's the guy they favor over BC at LT: Dennis Daley The guy they have at LT is slower, not as quick, not as strong, not as explosive as BC is. I just can't make heads or tails of it. Daley's longer arms are irrelevant if he can't stay in front of his man - which he can't. I can't fathom why we don't just give him a chance. If BC comes in, plays LT and lays an egg, fine. The staff can then go "See? This is why we don't play him there." On the other hand, BC sports the best grade at LT we've seen all season in the limited time he's played there. Isn't that at least worth a long look?

I definitely think a loss to Atlanta will seal Rhule's fate. I still don't think we actually see that until after the season is over. One of the things that I believe is being way over-thought in NFL circles is the concept of finishing a bad season strong. We heard about how good Rivera was at the end of seasons. The more I've pondered this, the more I think it's fools gold. By the end of the season, many of the good teams start resting players for the playoffs. If a player is even mildly injured, no way he plays. The clearer the playoff picture becomes, the stronger this effect becomes. I think things like that sometimes give us these seemingly "good" results for bad teams at the end of a season.

Here's the problem Joe Brady has. It's one thing to look at what our offense has done the last couple years and go "I see what they were trying to do, and they just couldn't pull it off". Whether the failure was personnel or execution, if you could look at our offense and go "Oh, I see what we wanted to do" that's unfulfilled potential that you can work with. That's not what I see when I look at our offense. We definitely have personnel issues, but most teams have them. What I don't see is a consistent plan. "We're going to run the ball more" - Matt Rhule. Did you see it? I didn't see it. All I see is the same failures over and over, and I don't see what we are doing to either work around the issues or correct them. That falls on coaching, and in the case of our offense, Joe Brady.

If Rhule is let go, odds on it won't happen until after the season. There is no benefit. College coaches have already moved around. Pederson is the only unemployed NFL coach out there, and we can't talk to employed coaches. What's the point?

Can we please decide once and for all if Rhule has full roster control or not? I can't keep up.

Gilmore was actually a brilliant move. We gave up a sixth round pick for a high level experienced veteran to come in and set an example for a very young DB room. To top it off, even if we make no effort to resign him, we'll get a BETTER PICK as a compensatory when we lose him. There is no downside to that trade. None.

No. Name a Super Bowl winning coach who didn't win his first within five years of taking over his team. I'll wait. (Andy Reid is the only one I know of)

Faulty logic. Just because you were hired does not mean you are given the tools to succeed. You would think that it should follow, but I assure you that it does not.

I agree with this. Brady needed to go, he clearly wasn't the right guy. That also doesn't invalidate the possibility that he was set up to fail. A real conspiracy theorist might go "Brady was set up to fail so Rhule could claim that he should have appointed his own guy instead of looking for the best". Effectively, it could have been Rhule saying "I know best".

Wrong. That was terrible offensive football. It was admitting that Jones didn't have the arm to throw in that wind. That's all it was. The game was tight. There is no excuse. It's not like the Pats put the game out of reach running. They were a couple dropped passes away from losing the game. That's an offense Ron Rivera would be proud of. BS. It was a terrible display by a team that effectively admitted the limitations of their rookie QB. This was a game the Patriots simply didn't lose. Which is very different than saying they won it. Barely 200 yards of total offense? Come on.

Yea, I'm not sure why so many are lauding a Patriots team that managed to score 14 points. Their only TD was on a LONG run that probably should have been stopped in the backfield. If the Bills just made the plays that were in front of them I think they win the game easily. Jones doesn't have the arm talent to throw in that kind of wind. His one completion beyond the LOS was an amazing catch by the receiver.

Anyone who can't see the red flags with Josh McDaniels is not someone I want choosing our coach. This isn't to say the guy isn't a good coordinator. He clearly is. But he's not head coach material.

Then is irrelevant. Who he is now is relevant, and unclear. Is Cam the guy who went 21 of 27 and 2 TD's? Is he the guy who 5 of 21 with 2 INT's? I don't know. Neither does anyone else. It's no different than Darnold after the Eagles game. Do you assume that the Eagles game defined him? No. Of course not. One game doesn't define any player. Thus, the reason to keep playing him is to reveal the truth of what he can be right now. Has nothing to do with feel good stories, has everything to do with sorting out what we do next year.

Cam plays QB the rest of the year. Period. You need to find out to the greatest extent possible whether he can be an NFL QB in his current condition - whatever that might be. If the answer is that he can be a QB, you can likely get him cheaper than any other QB you may consider. The guy was on his couch remember.

Of course it will. How could it not? I'm still stunned that Sean Ryan wasn't given the OC duties for the rest of the season as a potential tryout for the permanent role.

Leftwich smells like the next Adam Gase to me. Looks brilliant with a HoF QB running the plays, looks very questionable with a lesser talent. Pederson had one good season as a HC. One. How much of that season was Frank Reich? He had two "ok" seasons and two losing seasons. Yes, he had success as an OC under king Andy for a couple seasons. Not sold on Pederson, but he may be the best thing out there. Bienemy is the same thing as Pederson, another king Andy guy. Reid is amazing, but he hasn't yet been able to get any of his magic to rub off on one of his coordinators. Daboll may be good, hard to say. Prior to being with the Bills, his offenses were "underwhelming". He's certainly done well with Allen up there.

Yea, I absolutely do not understand the timing. That was super weird. Brady has been under heat since very early in the season. I suspect Rhule is under a lot of pressure. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that this move was forced on him and that his only recourse was to can Brady or lose his job as well. At least we know the last five games will mean something. Either we compete and win a couple or we lose out and probably end up with a new HC. I suspect it's up to the players. Either they believe in Rhule and fight for him or they give up, letting it be known that he isn't getting his message across.

There is no way Rhule gets fired before the end of the season. It's not happening. In order for him to stay, he does need to win some games. I'd guess two more wins and he keeps his job. Three more wins and for sure he keeps his job.