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We didn't get blown out 35-0 in the first half of any of those games though, so........ I was at that last game versus Patriots in the rain and stayed to the final whistle with the stadium about 98% empty when the team absolutely gave up in the second half and STILL didn't get whooped this bad.

Prior to that though, other teams were interested in Burns too. The Rams offer was the last one with sources confirmed. I can't remember if the reports were confirm, but the Eagles were sniffing around with two first and one of them were believed to be this year. As a new HC, having two first round picks in your first season is VERY attractive. That could even lure in a big name coach even though we lack a franchise QB. I know a dude that is a DIE-HARD Packers fan and he said that a second was the highest they were willing to give up, that future first were absolutely out of the question.

I can get us to $23.5M is cap space prior to FA and the draft with six moves. Extensions: Burns: $12M Brown: $2.3M Luvu: $2.1M Cap Casualties: Elflein: $2M Wilson: $2.6M Haynes: $2.5M

Agreed. I thought the exact same thing. I figured we would be stuck with Neal. The Giants new GM is an ex-Panthers guy. I'm not sure if there was a phone call made where some deceptive talk about drafting Thibedoux occurred that spooked them. Likely they just needed the pass rusher more than OT and didn't want to take any chances of missing out on him while they were already on the clock, as minimal of a risk as it was at any rate had they waited two picks later.

I'm was stunned that the Giants didn't take him at #5. Man am I glad they didn't! I was still nervous that Rhule would do something stupid, however. Even though Ickey was the obvious choice for us at #6, I was still nervous until his name actually was called.

That's the reason we need to move back in the draft a minimum of once, more realistically TWICE. Lots of holes and a tight cap. Our entire draft class will need to make the 53-man roster.

I've been barking up that tree for a few years now. I like Mayes as a solid IOL depth--IOL#4. I'd rather draft a center that has played it his entire college career.

I still can't believe we turned down the Eagles offer for Burns. Full blown rebuild coming our way and turned down two 1st rounders, one likely this year. I get it, can't make the tank too obvious for multiple reasons. I mean, I was cool keeping Moore even though he looks like he doesn't give a crap anymore. Firing coaches at this point is simply window dressing. We are a bad team even if some dead weight is let go.

Rhule's draft crush. No, seriously.

Lol, yes we do and a lot of draft sites don't have TE as a draft need.

Again, If we somehow drop out of the top 5 by draft day, move back and take Michael Mayer.

So if anyone doesn't have TE as a top 3 draft need now, there's no hope for you

That contract has a bit of Rhule stench to it. Rhule loved him some mediocre players.

One, I think...possibly two. Dude is legit SLOW! Looks like he's running in quicksand after a catch.

Big time on the Mayer train, but failing to move Burns scrapped that notion. We will not move back in the top 5 and Mayer won't last to #33.

Rd1-QB -Bryce Young/Alabama Rd2a-TE -Dalton Kincaid/Utah Rd2b-DE -Andre Carter/Army Rd3-MLB -Jack Campbell/Iowa Rd4a-WR -Jermaine Burton/Alabama Rd4b-OLB -Payton Wilson/NCSU Rd5-C -Joe Tippman/Wisconsin Lol, I've run nearly that identical simulation! It's based on need too. I've looked at our cap for next year and Elflein, Wilson and Haynes needs to be cap casualties. So that's a C, MLB and edge.

One more start after this week and we get to keep our 4th round pick in 2024! C'mon PJ, don't sh!t the bed now!!!

That Ian Thomas contract is looking better all the time!

I don't even know where to begin...this is the NFL and average means sucks. You would be correct, our TEs suck.

Rd1-QB Rd2a-TE Rd2b-DE Rd3-MLB Rd4a-WR Rd4b-OLB Rd5-C

A hold, BUT the defense had a penalty too, so they offset. The play therefore didn't count.

Look at Ickey with a clean sheet!

An extension needs to happen anyway to help out with next year's cap. Fortunately for us Brown is earning it.

While both true, that doesn't mean Marshall will be substantially better. He's not too shabby, but for a former 2nd rounder, he's got to show a lot more.

I'm not sold on Marshall yet. He shouldn't have been benched all year, but he's hardly exploded on the scene either. It's a wait and see.