Proudiddy

"Young up and comer fugs entire football team while cuck coach and owner watches." Oh, wrong site.

I know the issue has been discussed ad nauseum, but I figure this was thread worthy because up until this season, I was an adamant supporter of Fitt. I believed in him. He came from a front office and organizational culture that drafted, signed, and built a winner. He seemed to have and flexed a wide net of connections across the league that greatly helped us facilitate trades that at times had tremendous value, or at least the potential of tremendous value - and that no doubt is a huge asset. I also like that he seemed to target size/athleticism combos on all draft picks, because it seemed to follow the Seattle model. But, it's time. Not sure who has been responsible for what picks and signings at this point, because as has been discussed - we have no idea who was making the decisions since Tepper has been here. With any personnel decision we've made under this ownership, we have to ask, was it Tepper's decision? Rhule's? Fitt's? Who knows. But someone has to answer for it. The damage and casualties of the recklessness displayed by this front office is of a level I don't think the league has ever seen before, and I'm not exaggerating. Between giving CMC away to one of the best teams in the league who you knew would utilize him to maximize his potential and not even being able to net a future first is absolutely fuging insane... and to boot, he goes there and does exactly what we expected and is playing himself into being the MVP frontrunner. Then we have 4 potential franchise QB considerations in the first round of the draft. Only one of them refused to workout at the combine and also just happens to be built like a middle schooler. Not only did we not stand pat and see what we would get at 9. Not only did we not trade up into the top 5 to take one of them that fell to us. We traded crazy assets to move up, just to take the worst candidate out of all of them (and that's even considering AR suffering a season-ending injury). And in the process, on top of the cost of draft picks to do this, we trade a Top 5 WR talent in DJ to do so. And in the ultimate insult to injury, because the guy we sold out to draft at #1 is ass and as a result we are unintentionally tanking, the number one pick we traded to get him will now put the Bears in position to potentially have the first overall pick from us and possibly another top 3 pick because they suck. Don't think that has ever happened before either - a team trading a first to move up to first for a franchise changing player and then that same team becomes the worst team in the NFL after making that pick. It is the absolute opposite effect you want from a #1 pick. Then we have Burns. Instead of just giving him a reasonable contract extension over the offseason, which was reportedly significantly lower than what the number would now be projected at, we decided to stupidly play hardball with him. Instead of being decisive about his significance and role with the team, we pussyfooted around and neither extended him nor traded him for value... passing up on draft capital that would've at least somewhat mitigated the hit we took in trading up for Bryce. Now, Burns is understandably playing more cautiously to get through the season, got injured today in a game that Bryce, the guy they sold the farm for, single-handedly lost. And again, things would feel different if this same FO that is so reckless with draft assets was actually good at identifying, acquiring and developing gems from later rounds in the draft or free agency, but nope. The cupboard is pretty bare in terms of depth. As I said, the mounting damage and casualties have reached an insurmountable level. It can't be ignored. It can't be swept under the rug and revisited later. I'm sure Tepper had a hand in all of these moves, but if you don't have the balls to take a stand on something one way or another as the guy making the personnel decisions, then you gotta answer for them. Never in the history of this franchise has it ever felt so desolate and hopeless before; Not just because of the decisions that have already been made (and horribly), but because of what those decisions cost us in the future and how long it will take us to get out of the hole that has been dug. This poo could not have been imagined a bigger nightmare if Stephen King took up writing about NFL personnel departments. And sadly, even if Fitt is fired, I don't see things getting any better unless Tepper stops meddling, and I don't see that happening either. We are just in a very hopeless state right now...

They won't be missing anything unless we start Andy.

It'd what my issue has been with his fanbous from the beginning - a #1 pick, ESPECIALLY QB, is supposed to be a player that elevates everyone around him and you trust will make the plays to single-handedly win games for you when the opportunities present themselves. They drafted a guy that needs others to make the plays for him, and when presented those opportunities to win games, he actually loses them. That is the complete antithesis of what a #1 pick should be... and like you said, we fuging traded up for this poo when most knew that he was a game manager. Tepper is a fuging plague.

Or we could've just drafted a QB that makes everyone around him better and not one that needed all the players around him to make him good at all.

3rd and 10, throws 3 yard drag immediately. Well, I guess that's better than a pick 6. The #1 overall pick ladies and gentlemen.

He almost threw a 3rd pick 6

Hey guys, maybe we can run four guys on 5 yard hook routes all the way down the field?

I've said it from the jump, the issue is we already knew his limitations, but the bigger problem is that his perceived strengths were also huge weaknesses. The fuging Bears backup doesn't even make these mistakes. At this point, you could literally find and play any 6th or 7th round rookie QB and they wouldn't do the poo Bryce is doing. It's fuging horrible.

Waiting on a third pick 6.

Yeah, but this team is pushing the top of the division if Bryce hadn't singlehandedly lost multiple games now. He's making everyone look bad, honestly. Hard to overcome the mistakes he's making. And it's such a Panthers milestone to give up two pick 6s to one player in one game. Unbelievable.

Has a #1 picked QB ever been benched for the rest of a season after being handed the starting job? If not, Bryce needs to be the first. We would probably have at least 3 wins minimum already had he not single-handedly blew multiple games. He is BAD. PERIOD.

Annnnnnnnd, he turned right around and threw another pick 6. This dude sucks ass.

Now credit where credit is due - THAT was the throw I been waiting on all season. Good throw.

But the Texans aren't a talent juggernaut either, bro. Thielen may have a lost a half a step, but he used to run a 4.3. Chark runs a 4.3. Mingo was what, a 4.4 or 4.5? Chubba was a track guy. We have speed. Again, I'm convinced that the guys can't get open bc the whole offense is limited bc the field is so compressed to cater to the the throws that Bryce is comfortable throwing. Hard to showcase speed when he can't complete passes over the top. Everybody was gassing up his average performance last week, and yet still, not one "over-the-top" throw was attempted. His deepest throws this season have all been on deep crosses over the middle. Those are the only deep throws he's comfortable throwing and is accurate with, and defense know it, so they jump everything short and keep everything in front of them comfortably bc they're not scared of him even attempting to beat them over the top.

I'm not saying there aren't other issues, but you yourself just said he's an "undersized" rookie QB. He's not gonna grow, man. A huge part of the issue and why it is snowballing into the whole offense - blocking, rushing, route running - looking like poo, is because defenses are able to play the whole field 20 yards and under towards the LOS. They compress their field, so they're able to be uber-aggressive against the run, pass rush with reckless abandonment, and play underneath every fuging route we run bc there is almost absolute zero threat for Bryce to beat them downfield. We saw the same poo with Cam post-shoulder injury. But difference is, this is who Bryce is and came into the league as. He can't see and he can't throw deep because of the size you mentioned, and that isn't changing. I think he's average in the best case scenario long-term. We blew the #1 pick. That's my take.

But that's the thing. Chark isn't a bum. Thielen is currently the best slot receiver in the NFL. Drafted Mingo in the 2nd for him. Hurst, Tremble, Sullivan... Chubba had one of the best YPC averages in the NFL coming into this season. They assembled this staff and this supporting cast specifically to help fasttrack his development, and instead, Bryce has hindered everyone else's development and production with his limitations.

There's always an excuse, though. Again, QBs elsewhere are doing for more with far less. People been trying to blame the receivers, then the coaching, then the line, when at the end of the day, the QB is the common denominator. It is not coincidence that the offense looked its most explosive and functional in the only start Dalton had. Bryce is the problem limiting the offense and allowing defense to compress the field into 20 yard increments. It's painful to watch.

I checked in last week and gave my take. I credited him foe the couple of nice throws he made and said it was his best showing yet, but that I was still unimpressed and still saw inherent flaws and weaknesses in his game that limit the offense so it didn't feel like a satisfying "coming of age" moment like many were trying to paint it. He just isn't very good, man. Honestly.

A friend of mine that's a Pats fan keeps lamenting how bad Mac is, and I keep telling him, imagine Mac but worse... we REALLY, REALLY fuged up.

The Bryce Brigade got hyped off that average performance last week. He showed flashes but the weaknesses were still far too glaring. And here we are... dude had -6 net passing yards going into the final drive of the half, and now the super processor just threw a pick 6 on a super late throw to the sideline, which you know not to do from the earliest stages of playing football. Rookie or not, it's time to admit drafting him #1 overall was a mistake. Yall get excited about him doing super average poo but don't want to acknowledge all of the absolutely horrible poo he does on the regular that's far more prevalent than him completing an "incredible" 10 yard throw.

He is much needed. I have been beyond disappointed with Smith-Marsette as a returner.

Bryce played well. Made some good passes we hadn't seen to this point. But, tbh, I still do not like the way the offense looks. I'm not going to go too deep into detail aside from saying the blocking fuging sucks both in the pass and the run game, but I still question if some of the issues are inherent to Bryce's limitations or comfortability. It's hard to tell what's causing the issues, so I'm not going to assign them to any one thing or person and just say, it's the best he's played and that's a good thing... also, maybe credit to Houston'a defense for still making it a ugly win. Let's see where it goes...

Wtf???? Had completely forgot about him and would've never guessed he was even looking to still play as long as he's been gone. He was a solid player for a stretch though... iirc, injuries took a toll on him.

fug Frank. Dumbass. I was holding onto hope that he already had and we just didn't know it, so that way we knew his whole fuging system was just broken and we did all we could do. But you mean to tell me this dude ran the whole fuging season into the ground being a fuging stubborn idiot and THEN you're gonna let Bronw call plays after you blew our season to.fuging poo. fug you, Frank.