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Taking a guy with a 54% career pass completion percentage is... bold. That said I'd prefer that at #9 than trading multiple first round picks to move up for Stroud / Young.

Darnold getting smashed by immediate pressure through the A gap affected his ability to get into rhythm. Arnold is a TE2 / 3 on a good team.

We picked up a good starting LT who has the potential to be a franchise LT. Smith, Barno and Mayes have all flashed / contributed. It was not a bad draft at all.

I would sit tight at #9 and see who fell. Young is the best QB in this Draft, but he's tiny so you can't bet the farm on him. There wasn't a franchise QB in the 2022 Draft - there might not have even been a good starter.

Ah we're going for the literal strawman. I guess my time here in this thread is over because you're acting like children.

Who dismissed his film? We're talking about trading the farm for a QB prospect here. If everything doesn't line up, why the hell are you trading so much for him? He's never won the big game and he play on a STACKED team with multiple first round picks at WR. It's a huge concern - beyond anything you see on film about his ability to progress through his reads and his unwillingness to scramble.

There's 4 very good videos on the Draft section of the board that breaks down the top 4 QB prospects. That's their big concern about Stroud.

My feelings are fine, thanks. I'm just interested in having civil discourse. I think Darnold can hold down a starting job until you find someone better - that's always been my stance.

He literally stopped scoring points in the 4Q. He couldn't seal the deal. It is what it is - a lot of you are convincing yourselves that Stroud is THE ONE so I'm talking to a brick wall at this point.

How have you jumped to that conclusion?

That's such a dickish thing to say, but I guess that's par for the course online isn't it.

Not really. It's the most important position on the field. If you're trading up for a guy like that he'd better be a difference maker. He was up by like 3 scores against Georgia and couldn't seal the deal - that's not a good game to reference.

As a multi-year the starting QB of one of the top 3/4 College football programmes in the US it's a big hole in his resume, yes.

Maybe he should?

Burrow won the National Title and the Heisman Trophy.

I did - Mahomes put up a gazillion points every game, almost entirely on his own back. His defence let him down. Ohio St don't have those same talent problems You're talking to someone that wanted to draft Mahomes instead of McCaffrey.

Fields won the Big Ten Championship twice. Stroud never won it.

This is why it's such a mediocre hire, imo. They're not bothered at all that he's left.

I mean he even lost this game despite his all-star WR corps and getting out to a big lead. I read that he's not even as highly thought of as Fields in Ohio.

Darnold was very good when he came back from IR. I doubt they bring him back because the new HC will want his own guy, but that stretch of 6 games was the best QB play we've seen in a Panthers jersey for a number of years.

Fantastic hire, that. Very jealous.

They have the most talented roster in the NFL.

As long as you don't ask Richardson to roll out to his left...

He was available for less than 24 hours. No idea why we passed over him as the HC.

Aaaaand the refs seal the deal.