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That's pretty much been par for the course this season if you look at pass protection grades specifically.

Those were both trying to make value gambles in my opinion.

I agree with that but we are also in year 2 of a rebuild. Before the 3-0 start everyone knew that. Even the front office seemed to get blinded by that and try to jump into win now mode and trash the rebuild. I think Rhule will get one more season. Hopefully not Brady though. They will have to find a qb they fully commit to and their fate will be directly tied to him. No more going to the scrap heap and getting a pass.

I get what you're saying and I agree to an extent but Darnold definitely started catching some heat after his 2nd loss and those two guys cant be evaluated exactly the same. Most likely neither are the answer. In the nfl you cant judge a 24 year old qb who is all potential who the coaches though they could mold and a 32 year old QB who is physically on the down turn and has had multiple major injuries that have seemed to be nagging him years later, the same. Of course you have to look at those two situations a bit differently when you are trying to figure out your qb for the future.

Some people have been saying that throughout the season was regardless of who the qb was. Some are coincidentally just starting for the most part.

You all that are arguing are right. Cam has clearly shown he is the QB of the future....

He had 5 completions and 2 interceptions. It was an almost historically bad game. My argument isnt that Darnold is better than Cam. My argument is that some people are really overvaluing Cam.

Hard to say. There were 5 completions on his part. Doesnt sound very sustainable and I imagine that puts the defense out there a lot to get gassed. What was the time of possession? I havent looked

So everyone else is at fault when Cam does the exact same thing Darnold got ripped for? Got it.

Cam is here on a 1 year deal. Why would they do that?

You could definitely say that was the case today as a matter of fact. Those early picks definitely affected the flow of the game...

So it wasnt a Darnold problem either right? Right?

That sounds like a bunch of excuses. Did you give Darnold those as well?

My agenda? I have no idea what my apparent agenda is? Please tell me.

I dont give him the same leniency because he is a much older vet. He also has injury history. I would be much quicker to criticize any 32 year old qb who has had lingering injury issues. Unfortunately that's just the nature of the game and building a winning franchise. Also Darnold had some really good games early on. I'm not sure Cams game last week was better than all of those. I dont think either are the answer and I think there are lots of problems with the team not just the qb regardless of who the qb is. I've been preaching it all season regardless of who the qb was.

I definitely agree about the coaching staff. Especially Brady. I think they are at fault as much as anyone. I felt that with Darnold and Cam. Only one is getting the pass with that though really.

I just dont know why you're still so sure Cam is capable of having huge days and is so above average. You could be right, I just dont know what you've seen over the past few years to be so sure. He definitely brings a lot of sizzle, I got caught up in it too. Eventually you've got to make sure the steak is there too.

This is the exact bs I'm talking about. It is totally fair to critique Cam. Darnold got critiqued constantly as well. It's what fans do. It doesnt mean you hate anyone. Stop taking your frustration out on random people on a forum because Cam probably isnt the answer either.

I dont know that Darnold was the answer. It was looking more and more like he wasnt. But he was young and had the physical tools and potential that they hoped to mold and it didnt work out. I'm just not sure why people were ready to anoint Cam as the undeniable saviour immediately. That's unfair to everyone including him. We know what Cam is, we have a decent idea of what he can be, and we definitely know what he was. I dont think any of this has to be boiled down to hating any player. In the end I just want to win.

This isnt new.

So many people who constantly bashed Darnold are now making excuses for the next qb doing the literal exact thing in the exact same circumstances.

This times a million. The double standard is what is so ridiculous. If Cam does the exact thing Darnold did the same ones who critiqued Darnold for it call you an f150.

I agree. They've got to find a qb they go all in on. Not gamble. Theyve got to go all in on one they pick and that qb is 100% make or break for our coaching staff. So far they have went for low risk gambles or bandaid. It keeps Rhule and Brady out of the hot seat but that time is passed. This offseason they have to poo or get off the pot as they say. Also just let Brady go if needed lol

It was low and behind even if the db wasnt there...

Making late reads has been an issue his entire career.