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Thielen literally contemplated retiring this offseason. I don't think XL or Coker will ever be a true #1. If there was an elite all around prospect at wr at our pick I would be totally fine with it, but I'm tired of drafting big body possession receivers who skip agility and quickness drills.

I could see the Quinnen Williams, but he is a better prospect coming in than Brown was. Graham is a beast against the run, but the difference is he has a lot of potential to become a really good pass rusher in the interior. I think he is one of the top, if not the safest players in this draft to be really good. If he's there at 8, they better sprint to the podium, I just think the way this draft will probably fall, I don't see very many ways he's there.

Well he was also top 5 rated in pass rushing, pass rush win percentage, and run defense in college football last season. People saying he's hyped just because that one rep haven't seen much.

I don't see it, but I hope you're right

Unfortunately I don't think there is much chance at all of Graham making it to 8. I'm pretty sure he goes top 5. With him and Carter probably gone by 5.

https://bleacherreport.com/videos/650548-ot-bulldozed-at-senior-bowl

I don't even mind factoring ras scores as one factor. The problem with the high ras guys we've drafted is they intentionally skipped parts of the drills (mostly cones and shuttle agility drills) so the ras we are chasing is entirely just height, weight, and 40 time. That's a joke and not really a ras score at all.

Drafting a safety in the first seems like such a Morgan move.

It seems like every year there is a wr or two lighting up the senior bowl that rise a lot. I could be wrong but it seems like most of them end up being overdrafted and don't perform well in the NFL, but maybe some of them have and I'm misremembering.

Last years team definitely lacked speed and athleticism overall too. They looked like they were running in mud most of the time.

What I'm saying is toughness doesn't have any better odds to make a great player than height/weight/speed. An elite talented player with no toughness still may make it to the NFL, an elitely tough player without much talent definitely won't. What I'm trying to say is all of this is a sliding scale and I don't care about this hyper focus on being a "dawg" when we've been one of the worst drafting teams in the NFL both pre and post Morgan hiring. Until he hits on a draft I don't care what he says and will continue to feel like he doesn't know what he's talking about regardless.

That doesn't work logically because the exact opposite could be true, and more in line with the truth since he's wanted "dawgs" the whole time. The guys he's drafting could be tough enough, but not talented enough. I think that is more likely.

That's something that happened to Pearce a lot this season too.

Quit drafting "old" project players.

Yep. Most of the hardest working players were never made it to the NFL. Most of the guys who wanted it the most never made it to the NFL. That's why I've never understood people backing up players on here like Legette recently when they say they know he's a hard worker so he will succeed. That guarantees nothing, it helps, but it only helps so much. That's not me taking a shot at XL, he's just a recent example I've heard it a lot.

Agree 100%. If Graham is there we almost have to take him over anyone besides if somehow Carter fell to us.

Sounds good to me, then draft one of the big athletic interior guys in the 2nd like Deone Walker.

China never should have been a coverage safety..

Luvu didn't want to be here in this scheme and Evero didn't know how to use Chinn in his scheme. Evero doesn't adjust his scheme based on personnel at all.

Slowik has not been good at all this year and I wouldn't be surprised if they fired him. They had the most third and longs in the league this season.

Teams aren't going to want to take Dak's awful contract. They definitely aren't going to get any value back by trading him. Not this offseason especially. No way a team gives a first for the opportunity to take that giant contract for a qb that is a little above average. I believe the Dallas offense statistically was better overall with Rush in at qb and they won more games.

I hate the 40. I care much more about shuttles and cones.

I think the ras stuff was mostly pre fitterer and Morgan. They prefer older "raw" prospects, not ras as much. Rhule definitely loved ras and to be fair i prefer a true completed ras over "old and raw" if I was forced to pick one or the other.

His ras was only high because he didn't do any agility drills. No shuttles or cones. It's literally based on height, weight, and 40. It wouldn't have been nearly as high with agility numbers.

He's not going to run in the 4.4s. From what I've seen I'm not sure he will run in the 4.5s