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All along anyone could tell you the Texans were a bad situation for Stroud to walk into. He has had a rough introduction to the NFL but it's weird some folks are so eager to hate on him. Most of them here have one obvious thing in common. Anyways hopefully Bryce Young has a decent first outing Saturday. I expect some ups and downs and that's okay just show me some flashes too.

I wouldn't trade Moton either but I share the sentiment it's never too early to be thinking about next year for the oline. Considering the failure of the group played a crucial role in years of squandered talent over the better part of a decade culminating in a Super Bowl loss I'd say we should know a thing or two about it. Also if you don't like the thread there is the option of entering other threads and engaging in those conversations instead.

Reddick is long in the rearview now. Burns does need to be more consistent. But saying he's the lesser of the two while glossing over the fact Reddick was playing on a stacked Super Bowl team on one of the best defenses in the league and helped by an offense led by an MVP candidate while we had Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield says you just don't like Burns. That's your prerogative but just be honest about it if so.

Can we at least get a look at the guy in preseason? If you were thrilled about the Evero hire then maybe let him develop some under our new defensive coordinator.

He's going to have rookie growing pains regardless. Just take the good with the bad and enjoy the fact we are at least trying to go in a better and different direction from rotating other teams discarded quarterbacks. Also we should get it out of the way now and adjust expectations for our oline it's certainly a step up from what it once was but it's still going to be an issue for us in different spots.

It does not. But you are talking to someone who shouted Joe Brady's name in their sleep yet went in here harder than anyone else on behalf of one of the worst NFL coaches in history named Matt Rhule.

Well at least someone said it out loud. Anywho now and forever as far as I'm concerned it's fug the Broncos Peyton Manning and their refs they brought with them 🗣

Every single one of these loudmouth Panthers fans that scream about the first round picks we turned down would be frothing at the mouth when they saw our putrid pass rush post Burns trade. And if and when he lit it up in L.A. they would be calling for Fitterer's head. It's easy to make plans for some picks years from now. Not easy to sit and watch and live with the results in the meantime.

Reddick cost too much and he wanted to go to Philly to contend and fulfill his own goals of playing for the Eagles. Plus he wasn't exactly thrilled to be here based on some of his own remarks about things leading up to the conclusion of his season here. We gotta move on and stop acting like we had a real shot. Things have worked out for both parties.

I wanted more pass rush and he brings veteran knowledge. I'm happy.

You can absolutely see that players on both sides of the ball gravitate towards him and appreciate his presence. When we brought in QB's like Darnold and Mayfield you could sense instances of guys just saying the right things. I get the complete opposite vibe. I'm ready for Panthers gamedays to be fun again.

I'm not pro Cousins at all but even I wouldn't label him a choke artist. That's a strong term reserved for some true turds. He's been pretty productive in the regular season. I don't see the point in engaging in what if this happened or that happened scenarios. You can find games where his defense might not have had a good performance and you can find some where they made plays to help the team win but Kirk got the credit since he's the defacto leader. Even QB's who were great and changed the game can't run away from their losses. See our only MVP in franchise history and losing Super Bowl 50. From my POV it looks like some folks are just trying to stick up for Cousins bc they feel he is being unfairly slighted. But really he isn't and the criticism he has faced for his playoff record is no different than any other QB

We can squabble over Kirk's numbers but can we agree linking him with Burrow to soften his playoff record is a stretch? Burrow has already led his franchise to a Super Bowl by age 25 and the Bengals have been one of the worst teams in the league for years.

Numbers only tell part of the story everyone with eyes saw him throw a check down behind the line of scrimmage with a playoff game on the line. No one with any self respect or awareness would compare that to Joe Burrow except talking head bros looking for clicks. He isn't without talent but his playoff rep is what it is.

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Interceptions were always going to be in the cards with a young QB. The question is the mental make up and ability to bounce back and tune out the mistakes. So far from what I can tell Bryce has that trait. Just have to let him develop and take his lumps that all rooks experience along the way.

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9 out of 10 Panthers fans want Jaycee to ball out even if they are skeptical. Only a few trolls have an opposing viewpoint so the rabble rousing about armchair GM's is a waste of keystrokes.

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If the convo is about the position having become increasingly devalued as a whole there will be no disagreement from me. If the convo is about us giving Sanders a decent contract and that being at all comparable to that albatross extension we signed McCaffrey to without a starting QB then I will have to say this is a silly thread. The highest his cap hit will go within the next 4 years is 8.1 million. Let's see the guy play and go from there. I think we'll like him.

I can only go by the things he says. He does sound sincere. From a human standpoint I hope he gets himself on and stays on the right track. It would be great to see him turn this from a negative into a positive and go on to spend the next several years competing for this franchise. TBD is all anyone can say right now. We shall see.

I forgot he played for the Saints. Yuck. But regarding a super bowl loss the passage of time helps put things into better perspective. We did not lose either of our two appearances because of one single play. The folks who hone in on the Kasay kick or the Newton fumble are just being emotional and ignorant. Which unfortunately is very common in general in sports fandom.

They were both dreadful being honest. By the way Andy Dalton is also in that top ten worst all time single game passer rating list I mentioned. I don't want to see him playing nothing against him personally I can appreciate he's filling a mentor role so to speak. That's fine but that's all I need.