micnificent28

I mean you signed up for this when you gave him 7 years. You praised him as a team builder let's give him atleast 3 seasons to do it. Gonna be even harder with all the assets they traded away. But you signed up for this see it through.

He generated plenty of velocity on his pass to Moore today so to say his arm is all gone is one thing. He won't ever be gunslinger cam again yes that injury destroyed his elite arm strength. But him not knowing the offense is just the price of doing business when you since a qb midway through the season. You could go with PJ but you see what that would get you. There is no fix for this that time and another season baking in the oven will only fix. I think most of cams inaccuracies come with no time to release the ball and pressure. Sure that first int was on him. Second one I think 50/50 Moore got beat up badly and Howard an elite corner won.

Coming into the start of the season we knew we might have a question mark at Qb and the offensive line. Yes they deserve their share of the blame but the one issues we didn't see was the defense being manhandled.. in the run and even Waddle burning Jackson to a crisp. I want to share the blame here and point a large finger at Derrick Brown who was suppose to be a run stuffing God and that's what largely made him a number 7 pick. After today and not even starting he's looking very busty to me. We are a very finesse team elite speed from speed rushers on the edge but that makes them vulnerable to power run blockers. They probably don't set the edge the best or she'd blocks as well in the run game. A staff that has poured Countless first and second round picks into the defense should not be this bad on defense. Even our precious corner back core looked lost today.. and the finger can largely be pointed at rhule he put this monstrosity together. I say give him another year to fix it you signed him to a 7 year contract this is year 2. But if he doesn't see the dying need of offensive line help this next season the honeymoon is over amd show him the door.

Stop it dude P.J came in and immediately 2 sacks taken and then sends up the Ole PJ special a Pick right on Que. This tells me it's not a Cam problem it's a offensive line problem qbs aren't magical creatures that create offensive line play and make wrs good. You need players around them especially the offensive line. Look at Jacksonville they landed a generational talent in Lawrence.... he's getting destroyed. Look at Wilson the qb many of us wanted for the jets... getting destroyed. It doesn't matter who the qb is if he can't turn around after a 5 step drop.

This is foolish. Nothing inconsistent about anything but the offensive line. He came in first week 2 touchdowns no ints next week 3 touchdowns no ints this week 1 touchdown and 2 picks and his arm is shot and way to inconsistent lol

Cam is not a nfl qb...wait what...

Doesn't matter who the qb is if he's getting hit before he turns around from his 5 step drop. I think this is why team prefer to build from the inside out. Doesn't matter who the trigger man is if the line is this bad. The Jaguars landed a generational talent this season and look at them.

You Walker mouth breathers finally got your look at him he gets sacked twice and immediately throws an int. Stop asking for this guy!

My God enough if enough.... no I don't want to go to dollar Dave's thrift shopping store. No I don't want a 3-7 round investment no no no. Enough of this getting pushed around the guard play is atrocious not to even get into Daley. This is embarrassing and soul crushing. Stop it the end.

I look at the runs and his skills in that aspect dont look to have diminished at all. He looks as dangerous with the ball in his hands as he did in 2015 to me. Thats the point I have tried to make he looks the same as a runner. I sure his arm isnt 2011 Cam before the Injury but, I dont think we are seeing a player who is regressing due to age at all. It might not be fair to expect MVP caliber Cam but something not to much lower due to I'm assuming so fine QB coaching in New England his isnt sailing near as many passes as we saw over the years. I dont remember seeing him sail any so far.

Depends on how the team is built. You would be hard pressed to put up 21 on say the ravens of the Ray Lewis ed reed era or even when Luke, davis so on Panthers of 15. We are a Defensive built team we put most of our picks the last few years into the defense designed to not let teams score over 21. If they do its easy to see a loss we werent built to shoot out with Mahomes or even the Falcons at their peak. The opposite we are the counter punch. That isnt to say oh cam cant win games where hes 12-12 when they score 21 we werent made to do that. Not to mention wins and losses arent a qb stat. you could score 43 and the defense gives up 45 is that cams fault? 53 people on a team and defense has to do their part.

Bro, he stiff arms the db first the towards the end Simmons comes off his block and attempts to make the tackle meaning he put himself in harms way and yes cam trampled him over for the touchdown. It's not much clearer than that. Not sure your definition of running someone over has to be completely squared up as per the rules of engagement. And then you joined in January and are questioning My knowledge of the game based on your own idea of what running someone over is lol.

He ran over Simmons who is a linebacker https://youtu.be/T3v6J658Cmk

I mean looking at him run over guys in Arizona, and last week at Washington I honestly don't see a drop off in his running ability at all. Not trying to disagree but he was breaking tackles and goalline running as well as ever. His rushing totals in his first full game are in line with his normal healthy averages.

The shoulder is a fair argument. But his physique is a personal health choice. That was done to improve and extend his career. Being 245 instead of 260 isn't a huge negative.

What's different?

I know it's not 2015.. I know Cam is 32 and the popular opinion is his skills have diminished. But look at the previous two weeks his legs look as alive as ever putting up near the dame rushing averages and his arm maybe not peak cam due to injuries..but he looks more accurate. Just not seeing the popular...he's not the same guy mantra.

On a brighter note..on a sadder note they were without young and Sweat....

I was dead set against the pick. He's a one dimensional player who really isn't even thay goo at stopping the run. Maybe it's our scheme? But basically he's a 3-4 tackle and he's not good at it. Top 10 picks at tackle have to generate a pash rush to validate the pick. We could have gotten a space eater layer if we just wanted a slab to hold the middle. A guy like al woods comes to mind. I was a Simmons guy we give or take has been average to above I stand by the pick.

Curtis Samuel the player is a fine player. I would even make make case I would rather have him than Robby Anderson because he's the bigger threat with the ball in his hands. I have seen him make contested catches run route and separate and ankle breaking yah yardage. All while growing into a wr. He plays out the back field and probably one of the more versatile players we had. When cmc went down he instead of moore would have been coming out the backfield. That said his injury history has been unsatisfactory. He has barely played which is concerning. But nobody really could say he would miss this much time because we haven't seen it this bad. Tough break for Washington. Not sure they overpaid on the talent but for the production most definitely not worth it.

Depends on which one... thats the first one but that hit he took from TJ Watt in the Pittsburgh game definitely messed somethings up that season. So accurate.

You do know that isn't how he got hurt right? It was standing in the pocket behind this line thats already bad. He's never had much issue protecting himself when running. Also no one is saying so it every 4th down but make them think about it and respect it.

I think the opposite is true. Because his days as a true franchise number 1 are over new England used him as strictly a bull dozier and didn't care about him getting banged up last year.

Our line has always been bad. Cam masked those deficiency for years even that super bowl year...