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To be fair, after seeing Thomas Davis come back from what, 4 ACL surgeries in 4 years? I feel like any player can come back.

No the sad thing is it’s very sustainable. It just is very very boring football. Our defense isn’t great but it’s good enough to keep up in games. We can run the ball on anyone which gives us a chance every game as long as we don’t commit turnovers. I remember us basically using the exact same gameplan when Wilkes took over. PJ Walker and Sam Darnold at QB, just running the ball down teams throats.

TE is a position that takes time to develop. I’m not expecting much this year but I do think he can be a good starting TE in the future. maybe I’m wrong but I just don’t see anything in Sanders. He just catches a few short passes and falls down as soon as he gets touched. I don’t think he’s a good blocker either.

I decided to google it and apparently there have been multiple players to come back, I saw one claim a 87% return rate and a 2018 claim that 71% of players with that injury came back. most notable is Peyton Manning who also had multiple neck surgeries. So I guess it’s possible. I also saw somewhere that you’ll be about 80% of what you was before but idk if I can believe that.

While I understand and agree to a degree, I think we still did a good job on pass protection. We still threw the ball 20 times and didn’t even allow a pressure by Parsons. We gave up just one sack total. So I think that shows our depth is doing well. I also think having a successful system with players who are experienced with the players and the playbook also helps. Offensive linemen get hurt a lot and yet top teams find ways to keep their team going at a high level when injuries occur. When a coach can get the players he wants or being able to keep players for multiple years so they have familiarity, it helps over come injuries. Nijman, Corbett, Zavala, Mays and Christensen all have multiple years of experience with us and have starting experience. Jake Curhan is a 5 year vet with 11 games started and played in the same system in Seattle when Canales coached there. So for once we have a lot of depth at offensive line. Despite the injuries I think we can actually have a decent offensive line for those reasons.

To be fair I bet a lot of people don’t sit and watch every college game, even if they do have the time to watch college ball there’s so many teams that you can’t watch every game so most people just look at stats, highlight reels and sports pundits who hype up and rank college players. looking at his stats where in the last two seasons he threw for 31 tds 3 INTs 68% completion percentage, and over 600 yards on the ground and 27 tds 2 INTs 69% completion percentage and over 400 yards on the ground. those are amazing numbers, especially in the SEC. I understand how the right system can mask a players deficiencies but you still got to give the player some credit. he also had a horrible injury in his last game of his college career which probably also effected his nfl career.

Question. Has anyone player ever came back from that type of injury before?

Yet the funny thing is if you look at Bryce last 17 games and compare them to Strouds, you see Bryce has been better and putting up decent numbers.

He played in the SEC, he was still able to throw the ball deep to WRs on a regular basis. It’s not like he was on an all star team playing against horrible teams every week. He was going against NFL talent in the SEC weekly and also playing against other ranked teams with NFL talent as well. You make it seem like he was throwing the ball off target by yards every play and the WR was good enough to make up for that. Football is too quick of a sport for that to happen. You got milliseconds to catch the ball, even the fastest players can’t move but a few yards in the time it takes for them to try to catch the ball.

I didn’t think he would last. Still I don’t like not having a young QB on the roster to develop. I don’t understand why a team with the QB in question like us isn’t trying to develop a young QB on the roster that one day may be ready to go and will be familiar with the system.

I honestly think it’s the coaching. Look how many plays we did short passes and screens. Also I don’t know how many times I’ve seen Bryce throw a deep ball and the WR drop it, as well as a few pass interference penalties and no calls that would have been at least 20 yards. before anyone says Bryce can’t throw the deep ball, explain what he did at Alabama? He can throw a ball deep. Why do you think he was a first pick and top qb prospect? also if you look at how many pass attempts Bryce is getting, it’s not a lot. It’s hard to get over 200 yards passing when you are barely throwing the ball 20 times a game. I also think we are very successful at running the ball and taking time off the clock so we don’t need to pass. Our defense isn’t the best so why expose them? Keep them off the field as long as possible.

According to this site the way his contract is, 2026 is made to where we have an out with releasing him. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/72510/chuba-hubbard

Can anyone give me an update on our offensive line? Who got injured this game and who’s starting now?

Yeah this is a crazy season. Granted it could end up any way and we are only about halfway through but somehow we keep winning. I mean we have had injuries galore. Our offensive line has probably been injured every game and some are done with the season and yet we hold back Parsons, only give up 1 sack and run for over 100 yards. Our QB play is horrible yet Bryce seems to always be able to give us a GW drive. Our defense sucks and can’t get a sack yet was able to play well enough to not allow over 300 yards passing or many points. It’s like the teams we are playing are just giving up when they play us.

He had seven sacks in a season….. in 2021….

There’s always a QB sitting somewhere that could be a good starter that just needs a to be given a chance. Kurt Warner was a back up who was playing arena football and NFL Europe and couldn’t even win the starting job until an injury happened. He ended up being the NFL MVP and winning a superbowl. our own Jake Delhomme became our starter after being a career back up and nfl Europe QB. Brady, arguably the best QB of all time was a 6th round pick. Daniel Jones was supposed to be done with and now he’s one of the top QBs of this season that’s turned a team into a top contender. Theres someone out there that just needs the right system, the right situation on the right team. We just have to find him. on a side note, think of how many great QBs that we never got to see because they were never given a shot, maybe they were sitting behind a great QB or the coaches didn’t like them. The sad truth is that there’s plenty of good players that end up being wasted.

To be fair that 2015 team had a lot of guys from a roster that had went 12-4 in 2013 and made the playoffs and one playoff game in 2014 and we had a lot of talent. still I do think we are heading up and should be better than last year. The only question is how much better? I do think Bryce will be better. More experience and a better WR group should help. XL is the one I’m not as confident about. He played poorly last season but I do think that if he can just fix the drops then he can be a solid wr. He seems to know what his problem was and worked on it. Hopefully he will improve. He admitted that he didn’t work as hard as he should have last year and I think that could mean he has focused hard this year. We will soon see.

To be fair I do recall us running the ball a lot so it’s hard to get those numbers up.

Yeah it’s hard to get used to that. I still think of FS as more of the coverage guy and SS as your run support. Our defense is different. Maybe that’s why we haven’t been good on D? Honestly I’m fine with us not signing him and giving Ransom the reps. Let’s see if he’s our future, get him some experience. I honestly would prefer if he played over Nick Scott but I think the coach prefers the experience.

Contracts like this make me wish there were caps on what players could get paid. Too many times we see players get big contracts then they don’t live up to it and it handicaps the team. We need more ways to benefit the teams. in the end it’s the fans who end up suffering because your team gets stuck with an injured player and can’t sign new ones or resign the good players you have.

What’s crazy is we had Baker and Darnold both on our team and PJ somehow was the best out of them at the time. imagine where we would be if we just kept one. Well for one I bet Canales wouldn’t be our HC because without Baker tampa wouldnt have had that good offense that got him recognized. I really think that if we would have just kept baker we would have been fine. I think he still hadnt fully recovered from his injury plus he was just thrown into a new team where he didn’t have a good offensive line, new playbook, team mates and coaches. He was set up to fail. I would have loved to see what he would have done with Reich as HC. heck I think Darnold could have been decent if he stayed too. He actually played well his last season with us and we seen how well he can do with a competent coach and players around him.

Didn’t he have a major surgery done to him? still, 27, 32 doesn’t matter he hasn’t shown improvement. I doubt a change of scenery will change that. I doubt think the system he was in or the team was the issue with him. I would honestly rather have a young QB who maybe raw but could actually be good with time and coaching. I don’t get why everyone has such low expectations for back up QBs. Back up QBs can be developed into starters. Why invest in a player who doesn’t have much potential?

you make a very valid argument. I still think the data maybe a little off because 1. Bryce hasn’t had time to fully develop and have the training wheels off. 2. He was a different player during the last couple of weeks compared to the first. So how do those numbers look? has Bryce turned the corner and those last weeks are him finally figuring things out or did he just happen to play well for a few weeks due to luck and random factors. we’ve see bad players able to to play well for a few weeks before. it kinda reminds me of a few years ago how people said we had a top pass defense when in reality we didn’t, the numbers weren’t that bad because the attempts teams passed against us were a lot lower because teams mostly ran against us. If you actually looked at per attempt stats, pressures, sacks, turnovers you would have seen that our pass defense wasn’t that good.

The problem I have with Hooker is he is already 27. So all that potential you have in a player is gone. He is already in his prime. He’s shown nothing for the lions who is a great team with great weapons and great offensive line. You think that’s going to change here?

4th round pick for a 33 year old with one year left and we signed in FA? That’s a good deal!