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That’s fair. I’m definitely more out than in, but we’ll see/no reason to hate it if he stays. If they keep him, best case, maybe he becomes decent depth over time.

I personally think he's one of the worst OGs we've ever had aside Nate Chandler to play substantial regular season snaps. We have a good swing lineman in Brady at LT, LG..not to mention, Yosh can and has played LT, RT, and LG effectively in the NFL. Extremely poor performance, one alright preseason game stretch, long term hammy injuries, freak injury last season, again terrible play, with a staff that didn't draft him. I don't see how he's valuable compared to some of the UDFAs/late signings.

My 2 cents- WR: I could see us cutting all but (4) Diontae, Thielen, Legette, & Mingo. I don't think ISM makes it unless they really think his ST are that much a benefit compared to many other likely dudes on the wire. Coker could sneak in, but I think we target the waiver wire. Agree w/Persn that we keep 4 Zavala gets cut. Raym or Anderson make it instead We keep 5 safeties, Alex Cook makes it. Where the space is made - Cherelus or Davis get cut in the front-7.

I’ll respectfully disagree to the point rookie receivers struggle more these days. I’d say that’s absolutely not the case anymore, and has been this way for a minute with modern offenses. The last handful drafts have been fire with impact rookie WRs making impacts left and right, all over the map and quickly. Chase, Lamb, JJ, Waddle, Puka, St Brown, Olave, Dell, JSN, Nico, Reed, Watson, Devonta, G Wilson, London, Higgins, Pittman, Addison, Doubs, Douglas, Pickens, Aiyuk, there’s been impactful guys coming in with swift, high snap count roles in just a few years time. This is separate from the XL talk, he’s got great potential, but he’s more in the DK or Deebo framework needing a bit of refinement to nail down his forte. Those guys still find their way as well. The crazy thing was that last year was the draft many claimed was WR starved and it was historic production wise.

If it's the right play I'm thinking of, it was Pistol w/2 H-Blockers. So that's a 12-personnel pistol package -- Had Dionte & Mingo, Matthews & Sanders blocking each side of Bryce. It was a clean pocket until Branson Deen shed an Icky block with a spin. Got Bryce a bit jittery even though I think he had space to move left.

There's no real critique to have yet either way. After scoping things out -- Initial snaps yesterday were Dionte (X), Thielen (Slot), Mingo (Flanker), & Sanders (In-Line/Flex TE), Chubba (RB) Matthews & Sanders in 12 personnel w/Dionte & Thielen. We brought in XL in a condensed set +motion with Dionte. I imagine that's similar to the script we'll see early on in the year. (4th down completion) And then had XL at the X with Dionte at Flanker, Thielen slot, Sanders inline for the big Thielen completion. That was a nice play design. More spread gun. Seems like our primary 11 personnel is: Diontae (X), Mingo (Flanker), Thielen (Slot) 12 personnel (w/Tremble out): WR: Diontae & Thielen (Sometimes XL if we need speed), TE: Sanders & Matthews Condensed (or) Spread Pistol and Gun Packages: If 3 WRs, XL is in Mingo out. Diontae & XL rotating spots. If 4+, XL looks more slot/presnap motion type. Some decent potential in the offense.

Got around to watching highlights today. Looked promising. Sound play designs. Still see anxious feet by QB1 but he's looking more confident. The first Sanders completion was really nice.

Tutu Atwell sounds like he could be had on the trade market with Wittingham and Robinson coming along in LA behind Puka and Kupp. He fits the young shiftier type we don’t really have. That could be worth pursuing.

It's all about setting expectations. It was known going in he's got the potential to be a solid X but had some pretty obvious humps ahead (not ones he can't overcome, just acknowledging where he's at). So the comments about those expressing reality seem rather annoying. No crap, every player requires patience and development... After BTJ, the remainder big body X-receivers that could play early were basically Coleman, AD, & for us we saw XL in that tier and apparently liked him the most. The big humps to expect - right now: He doesn't have short area quickness or RR skills to beat guys in zone coverage. He's a man beater. So he needs time to learn the upper body nuances at the spot and how to get open quickly without presnap work. Factor in that he's older, so you want swift development. All in all, it's a high reward with him working out but we've tried this a few times. High upside, less sure thing, so yeah, many will stay pessimistic until proven otherwise.

Coker has shown some ability so would be interesting to see if he could grow.. but I don’t mind looking elsewhere entirely after our top 4, especially being #1 on the waiver wire. Young dudes like Charlie Jones could be cut in Cincy, Skyy Moore in KC. Or even middling journeymen like MVS or maybe even Robert Woods. See who gets free and feel the situation out.

Traded into the first for the guy. You'd like to think he makes a year 1 impact like most modern WRs do. Sucks we can't find one the plentiful ones who've worked out from the get-go but this was a guy many analysts and us saw from a ways away he didn't have the short area burst or refined rr skills to come in at an outside capacity as an X. There-in lies his upside, but out of the gate, he's easing in and it should be the expectation he's not doing a ton year 1. Look at recent years, Flowers, Puka, Dell, Jayden Reed, JSN, Watson, Doubs, Rice, heck guys like Douglas and Wicks. If we drafted Polk or Ladd it would be a different story, but we also wouldn't have the big play big man ceiling that we have in him.

Great - he was a good signing. Just as solid of a swing depth piece as BC.

He'll get a high target share. It's a matter of how well this offense works with the run game, OL, and Bryce to actually open up a passing game.

Same here - my dad just straight up gave them up this past year. We’re on the north Panther. They only made it to a few games anyways the past few years because they peaced out of Charlotte. But we were there every game from Clemson until around my college years 06-10ish. I slowly faded out as I moved for jobs, but came back for a ton of games during Cam/Luke years. Think my last Panthers game was Thanksgiving 2018. I was looking at the Bears schedule and my pops was like “how about I fly in for the Panthers game” and I was like, nah, let’s do the Rams at Soldier Field haha.

My fam is from Chicago, Bears fans, but my parents lived in Charlotte when the Panthers began, so grew up going to every game. First and only team I’ve been a diehard fan of. Now I live in Chicago (north burbs), and I gotta be honest, knowing I’ll be here growing my family, it’s hard not to look at migrating to the Bears side haha. The Panthers franchise is in wretched shape.

I'll be honest, didn't even turn our game on once I found out the starters and some backups were even out. Bears-Bengals first half was it for me this week lol.

Disagree with the approach.

If I remember Hard Knocks correctly, outside of the Morgan chat, there was a moment where the Giants staff was chatting Burns and they mentioned it would probably take a first prior to negotiations even starting. It does feel we didn’t squeeze enough, but we had limited options in the market given Burns’ contract wishes. If these guys were good, I imagine we could’ve gotten a 2nd and future 3rd. I also found it rather silly we tried to add a 7th. I mean..Play some hardball, they’re eyeing your best defender, tell them to get a better damn offer and if they want to be serious. Seemed like we took a deal when we could’ve negotiated a bit more. Draft wise, yeah, concerning again although I like Brooks, Trevin and Sanders a lot…but the way we navigated the first two picks was frustrating. I was in the camp of XL needed way too much work to take that high and we needed a guy like Pearsall/Ladd/Polk that can step in with refined rr skills. I liked the Rams trade we made, but man, would’ve thought the minor trade up target could’ve been a DNA changer like Sainristil. It’s a mixed bag. Felt better than Fitt but still underwhelming.

Freaking love Tank Dell

I got a glimpse at the headline and thought it was a metaphor for how things started off. Woooosh

Hmm. So, the energy seems solid, but the 1st team offense just seems to lack any real "it" factor. Really looking forward to the preseason games.

Yeah that’s always the trick. Honestly, unless you win a conference with that type of QB, which will mean you would have built a great squad, the second contract becomes a huge deal. Do you take the risk of investing in him again at the risk the overall team’s quality may drop with the reallocation to the QB room? Or do you reserve that bag for a real top-10 QB? The Derek Carr/Cousins 10-15 ranked range is what I don’t want to find ourselves locked into unless Canales and Morgan really construct a winner here.

Seems people aren’t looking at the greater picture and getting bogged down that this is some anti-Bryce video. I highly encourage people to listen to the AFS. Easily the best football related podcast out there. Mays was one of the best Grantland guys back in the day and The Athletic is easily one the top publications that warrants reading and listening to.

I would love to see him work out. Heck, I would love to see at least one of these young WRs show something at least at a Keary Colbert rookie season level. Just give us something new and better than awful.