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Overall, we really didn’t get decent grades. In everything I looked at C or C- were the lowest grades given out. Seemed like Atlanta was universally the bottom grade and we were usually tied with several teams in the tier above that. I’d say we were universally bottom 10.

Well if you have to do that then you also have to take into consideration that Brooks and that 2nd came by trading Burns. I think ignoring the 2025 2nd and then ignoring the loss of Burns makes it fair to grade without both.

It’s not a hard sale. Pretty sure we are the easiest roster to make. I remember talking about UDFAs back in the playoff days and there were barely roster spots when you looked at the 53. Any rookie that shows out has a legit shot. There are way less roster locks on the current team.

You can do whatever you want. Let’s be honest, you were the one telling me how to act and what I seemingly didn’t know. I’ve always liked the draft even with as poo as we’ve been the part 6 years.

Norwell? Addison? Remmers? We had 3 starters and one solid contributor (might be forgetting others) on that 2015 team that were UDFAs. UDFAs can be valuable. We just have done nothing with them in Hurney 2.0 and Fitt. We did a lot with them before that. Hurney 2.0 was mining the XFL of all things. I’ll never get that over college UDFAs.

If you don’t care so much, why do bother watching the draft and come in the threads? You’re acting like I don’t know that a team has its own ranking. It’s ok to disagree and think we passed on guys that we shouldn’t have. I actually enjoy the draft and I’ve got a great memory so I’ll remember the guys we passed over and check in to see if they pop up as successful or not. Also, I’ll be honest and maybe you will agree and maybe you won’t, but I think this team has royally fuged up by going for their needs instead of BPA. Miami is a playoff team and even after they took an edge in the 1st, they saw value in another edge in the 5th that they didn’t have in for a visit. I don’t think we’ve done that at all which leads to missing on solid players like Tre Smith a couple drafts ago. I think that our going for needs has been because our GMs have thought we were close even as our 2013-2017 playoff teams were basically whittled away. It has absolutely contributed to us going from 4 out of 5 playoffs to a 2-15 team that was lucky to barely win both games. I liked some of the picks today and hope they do well, but the way we finished up was reminiscent of the past 6 drafts. We’ll see but I’ll remember Limmer, Jones, McLahlan and Kamara to see if we might have had one of those mega drafts that we so sorely needed. Adios and you enjoy as well.

Ok? Those guys all went soon after our picks. Plenty of guys drop and then people wonder why they dropped after they are successful. Plenty of busts. Let’s not act like Team rankings are some infallible lists. If we had been drafting well the past 6 years do you think we’d be complaining as much? We complain because our GMs/scouting has been crap for the past 6 years. It’s that simple. The huddle rankings and consensus have absolutely been better than our team’s results.

Damn, hate to hear the announcers talk about what a steal Limmer is and to not be surprised if he turns into a star. I agree, he’s one of the picks that we’ll regret. I think Kamara and Limmer would have been a heck of an ending to our draft or even Jones and Limmer as great OL depth that maybe turns into two solid starters in a year. I’m not confident that Chau and Crumedy have the same upside.

My point exactly, we never stray from our tunnel vision and visits. Other teams do and that’s how they get guys like Tre Smith and maybe Kamara, Jones and all the Centers. Visits can never come close to covering every pick and scenario. Typically most of them are focused on top 2 picks like all 4 QB visits last year and all the late first and early to mid second ranked guys this year. I don’t think our scouts are worth a damn based on the last 6 years and our horrific hit rate at all levels. I think we don’t do enough digging so we seem to be the worst team at taking advantage of value/deep positions. Look at this draft. Super deep draft at OT, CB and WR with a decent amount of Cs (versus not deep at G). Out of those deep positions we got XL in the 1st and Chau in the 5th. Sure doesn’t seem like we took advantage of anything. The only draft pick where I feel like we got great value and got ahead of a run was Sanders and I think many of us in here had him on our short list for 101. The way the draft broke and the entire overnight and Sanders was an easy pick to make but we then missed Jones, Kamara and McLahlan (two TE sets could have been awesome for run and pass with two solid receiving threats at TE). Oh well, we’ll see how it goes.

Miami took Kamara (Edge CSU) right after we took Chau. We absolutely need edge and Kamara was not a Dolphins visit according to Walter Football who tracks visits well. So, you’re wrong here and it took me one look at a guy I wanted us to take one pick prior because he was BPA. Miami took Chop in the first round so edge was no longer a need, yet they took Kamara because he was BPA. Teams like Miami, who have successfully built playoff teams with a new regime do so by getting impact players and value in the draft. Teams like us, who suck for long times do so by not getting impact players and by throwing away picks via bad trades and by not really going BPA to find diamonds in the rough. We’ve had 0 diamonds in the rough in 6 drafts.

It’s basically the same crew as the last 3 drafts. It really seems like we have a hard time going outside of our visits/interviews for late round picks. We don’t see to do well at all with guys who dropped that may or are be better overall players than guys we met.

Meh, doesn’t seem like it. Seems like with 3 DTs in the last 4 picks that we didn’t want to risk him going. I don’t know why we are ignoring C though as it and LT (still an issue) are the OL holes. LT could be OK if Iky improves but Corbett is not a long term option and may not even be a good short term solution. C is a much bigger need and was closer to BPA.

The entire current GM/scouting folks have been here with Fitterer for a few years. We just chopped Fitterer and promoted the assistant GM. I’m hoping it’s different but after seeing some of the talent dropping (this is a good and deeper draft than usual), I’d rather have XL with no 5th year and Jones or Kamara for 4 years.

SMH, how has our board done with the current scouting crew in recent years? My premise is valid because we’ve seen good guys drop for any number of reasons and we typically don’t adjust our draft board for people who drop. I hope I’m wrong but I think we had a good chance at some talent that dropped and we’ll regret it. I liked getting the 2nd next year, but wish we stayed put and took Brooks at 52. I think the fact that no RBs went between 46 and round 4 shows that our worries were unfounded and then we’d have had a couple more picks to grab a couple of Kamara, Jones, Washington and/or McLahlin (butchered likely) plus Chau. Loved Sanders in the 4th but very meh on XL trade up and Trevin.

Dude, just read the draft threads in here. I mean can you legitimately say we’ve drafted well from 2018-2023? Have we made good trades. I mean it’s comical when people say you can’t do better than professionals but we’ve been terrible and the huddle has absolutely picked better players than our team has. Lol at you trying to make it look like our recent drafting has been competent at all.

No, at this point you should be taking the BPAs not projects. Miami took Kamara one pick after us. They have edge guys but you don’t worry about that. If you are taking need on day 3, you are wasting the pick. You take Tre Smith over a long snapper. Heck, I would have been happy taking the TE from Arizona or T from Texas because they are great value picks at this point. Maybe you don’t need them but injuries happen and maybe they become future starters for Moton or great for two TE sets. I know that I and many others in here would have drafted better than we have lately. Hubbard, who is now being replaced for the 3rd year in a row is our only day 3 pick since 2017 (Butker starting for KC) that has done anything. Let’s not act like this scouting department and GM have any history of finding diamonds in the rough by going need based.

SMH. Would have been a great pick for us. We take a guy who is probably there in the 6th or 7th.

Yep. WTF. Good prospects still left and we take a guy who’s probably not even going to make the team.

Set really low? Bar was on the ground lol. I like him as a weapon. Only worry I have is blocking. I hope we can get something out of his blocking so that our offense isn’t easy to read, like Tremble in on 90% run and Sanders in on 80% pass plays. We had stuff like that last year where from the OL positioning you could tell if we were running or not.

Lol at best TE since Olsen. That’s like being the tallest midget. Sanders better be the best because Thomas, Tremble and scrubs are easily the worst TE crews in NFL. My favorite pick so far because we got value and we got him before a TE run. Sanders could have 320 yards and 2 TDs and he’d be HOF level of the TEs since Olsen.

First pick that I think we got solid value for in a while. Hopefully, he takes over the starting spot right away and plays well.

Um, that’s not true. The goal is to beat blocks. Avoiding blocks can easily lead to being out of position and “blocked” without even being touched. Also, many times, taking on the block allows the rest of the team to make the play. We’ll see how he does.

Actually, the weaknesses in his draft profile (avoiding blocks and needing to play with more passion and energy) says not a dawg. If you think Kuechly was a dawg, Wilson is probably your guy.

So true except that the huddle has been way better at picking players the past several drafts. It’s well documented. We’ve hated what seems like most picks the past 3 years. When was the huddle wrong?

Wait, so this guy’s weaknesses are that he tries to avoid blocks, not take them on and beat them, and that he needs to play with more passion and energy? How does that say “dawg”? Pretty sure Luke was a big Wilson fan. I’d take his word on LBers over Morgan’s, every single day.