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Lol. Make some noise? Dude has 0.5 sacks in his career and he’ll be turning 27 in October. At his pace, he’ll be 40 when he has his 4th NFL sack.

Huh? In what way did I compare them other than using Funchess as an example of pro day numbers improving over combine numbers. Unlike Tet, Funchess did run at the combine so we can see the impact of HFA pro day times. For Funchess it was 4.7 to 4.5 and Tet was unknown to 4.48. 4.5 flat and 4.48 aren’t much different so I’d suspect Tet would have run a 4.6+ at the combine.

Almost like picking the first RB coming off a severe injury in a weak class and realizing we won’t even know what we have until we have 2 cheap years left.

I don’t want to be a downer but when we were like 1 loss away from jumping to the top pick, the draft was looking fun and maybe getting us some picks in a trade down. If we take a safety at 8, ugh, what a punch to the gut that’ll be.

What? I’m living in reality. It’s been shown so many times that pro day numbers magically bring down bad combine results. I didn’t call him Funchess, just using him as an example where he magically got faster at his pro day. It happens all the time in the real world. Sorry man, McMillan isn’t a 4.48 combine guy. If we take him at 8, his speed is in question. One of his weaknesses is top end speed and getting separation deep. That doesn’t equate to 4.48 combine speed so his pro day speed should be viewed with skepticism.

As I posted in another thread, that 4.48 pro day is a 4.6+ combine result. Funchess ran 4.7 at the combine and 4.5 at Michigan’s pro day. Sorry, but when other first round prospects are running and you don’t, it means you know you ain’t running 4.48 at the combine. McMillan isn’t as good a prospect IMHO as last year’s big 3, so he should have run at the combine if he was legitimately that fast. He may do well in the NFL but he’s not 4.48 like the guys who ran that at the combine.

Funchess ran a 4.5 at his pro day after running a 4.7 at the combine. A 4.48 is probably a 4.6x at the combine. If he could actually run a combine 4.48, there is no way he would have skipped it.

You’d think we’d learn a bit when we tell a prospect we’ll draft him at the end of the 1st/early 2nd, the prospect tells everybody that we are picking him and no other team makes an attempt to “steal” that prospect. Normal teams would realize, hmm, maybe we got him because everyone else didn’t think he was worth it.

2018 to present, we have have wearing the suit. Maybe we eventually take it off, but unfortunately we haven’t given the suit to Goodwill yet.

I’m pretty sure I was one of those people although it was because we already had him under contract for 2025. Your suggestion made no sense because he’s either playing for us or retiring/sitting out. He can’t really force our hand because we want him playing with us and we’d get nothing in trade value. I still don’t get the extra money. He got a signing bonus which is why his salary for this year was “only” $6M but his 3 year deal was $8.3M per year. We already took care of him when he was released as an older player. We gave him the chance to be a key cog and to play for 3 years. I remember when Gettleman was fired for not being nice to Olsen and we let Hurney throw extra money to him. We got 79 receptions out of Olsen in 2 years after throwing $15M more to him right after he missed 9 or 10 games at 32. It’s a business and we had no reason to coddle Thielen after we gave him $25M and a great opportunity when no one else would.

Were you completely missing when the Rams offered us 2 1sts and a 2nd for Burns? If we wouldn’t trade him for that, then he better have a signed extension in hand. We flubbed it twice, once for not getting that haul and once for not even having Burns already extended before having to trade him. We waited until after Bosa signed and after the Redskins have Sweat away for peanuts. Rams got Steve Avila (starting G), Jared Verse (nice Burns replacement) and still have their 2025 1st. We could have replaced Burns, had a young starting guard and @ $40M in cap instead of Lewis and had another 1st in a deep DL draft. Those of us who wanted the trade have every right to be smug.

My fault for using them as a competent franchise example. Williams looks completely washed after the knee injury. I’d much rather have Dowdle, still prefer a rookie this year to either.

Good. We needed a nice value signing. It’s still funny how much we overvalue our guys even with winning 2-7 wins a year over 7 years. People mentioned we might lose BC to a starting contract elsewhere. He’s a good backup but clearly no one is giving a 29 year old backup a huge deal. I think he’s thinking his best chance at starting is if Moton retires or is released in the next couple years.

Well, the Cowboys are a bad drafting team as well so they’d be stupid to let Williams stop them from drafting a RB as well. Williams is completely below average at this point. Post injury, he’s been meh at best. I would be even more pissed if we signed him over a rookie.

Exactly, which is why I don’t like this. Dowdle is a JAG. If he wasn’t, the Cowboys would have extended him. They are clearly going RB in the draft. There were several RBs taken last year day 3 that would be suitable complimentary RBs to Hubbard and there will be again this year. Oh well, at least it’s not much but it will be annoying if somehow we skip over this RB class.

What? This is the best RB class in a long time. If we let Dowdle on a 1 year deal stop us from selecting a RB, we really are the worst drafting team out there. We have a lot of day 3 picks and there is no doubt there will be several RBs as BPA for a few of those. Personally, I feel like we are throwing money away. That $6M covers a 4th/5th round RB’s 4 year rookie deal. I’d rather have Hubbard, Brooks and a 2025 rookies as our RB corps. It just seems silly that we’re going to be paying our RBs $17M in 2025 and we won’t have our RB of the future playing at all.

I feel better just because we moved from a paper bag to a plastic one. Getting Derrick Brown back is more exciting than everything we’ve done so far. Heck, if we draft well, it will have more of an impact. It will be interesting to see if the results come to fruition.

You guys are both right. The problem is that when you have a bad drafting GM/scouts, the “hope” is more of a guess than a surprise bust. Was it a surprise when Brooks got hurt again? Was it a surprise that XL didn’t adjust faster than expected and was still raw at his age? Better teams reduce hope so if someone busts, it is a legit surprise. Bad teams (like us) are just guessing and tend to just focus on the positives and ignore the risks that make a bust not surprising. Let’s see if 2025 turns the corner in the draft. I’m still not optimistic because for all intents it seems to be the same team as the last GM.

Just an FYI, this stat line was brought up more than once for TMJ and Mingo. Maybe he will, but he got a ton of snaps last year. By snaps, XL was our number 1 WR. Thielen and Coker outperformed him on 40-50% less snaps. Reminded me of TMJ where people kept saying he needs more targets when snap wise he was our WR2 for most of his time. XL needs to be better and be able to turns all those snaps into production.

There’s also a big difference between our starters and most other teams. We’ve been bottom of the barrel since second half of 2018. Drafting a “starter” here is a lot easier than drafting a starter in KC so your stat, while true, doesn’t indicate that we are draft less starters each draft and we aren’t getting impact guys outside Brown and 50% of an impact guy in Horn. After round 1, since 2018, Chubba is literally the only impact starter in 7 drafts. Thats horrific drafting and it’s why we’ve spent $270M on 2 guards, 2 DTs and 1 safety. People go to the SB when they spend that on their franchise QB, not on guards, DTs and safeties. I hope they all make the team better but overpaying positions we should be drafting and developing on the cheap is not the best way to build a contender.

I don’t see what’s to like TBH. As someone posted about, spending in FA is easy. IOL was a problem because we ignored it in the draft, and we have solved (barring injury, depth is suspect) 2/3 of it with the 3rd highest paid RG and 9th highest paid LG. When you have the highest paid guard tandem, they better be good. Spending money on DL is obvious to do. Just like OL, that’s our weakness now. He’s done nothing special yet. Overspending is easy to do. Signing a Reddick or Luvu where your result is a great value, that’s special. Our 2024 draft has been very rough outside of Coker. Pick 8 and 57 better hit hard because signing FAs to be your core guys never works. The great team sign a FA or two to fill spots and use the bulk of their cap to extend their great draft picks.

Damn man. Now the kid’s gotta go to a Panthers game?

Very true, we’ve wasted so many picks and traded more away that we really are stuck a bit. They thought the Rams 2nd would replace our 2nd (last part of Young trade) and they ended up 18 picks apart. In looking at a mock, there were 8 DL and 4 DBs taken between our traded pick and the Rams pick we have. We still need to crush 8, like pro bowl level player and hit on 57. If not, we’re just going to keep throwing money at FAs and hope.

Good signing.

Yeah, I’m a bit worried that we are spending like crazy to hide our terrible drafting. It was posted earlier that this draft is loaded with DL. Makes me feel like we are going to ignore that.