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I still never understand the back the team no matter what the results have been. There is no doubt in my mind that if the huddle had run the drafts the past 7 years, we would have a much better team right now and likely challenged for our division the past few years. The drafts have been awful, period and there’s probably 10 consensus guys we were right on that would all have been improvements on the current roster.

I like it. Whether or not you agree, doesn’t matter as much as it has good info. I like the Senior Bowl and visit info. Not easy to find good blurbs about which players met with which teams and SB practice info all in one spot. I haven’t looked much at the visits recently, probably because it’s disappointing to see us having Maxx Crosby in for a private visit but take Will Grier instead or see players who barely visit anyone else yet we take them in day 2 or day 3 and shockingly they don’t work out. It’s just nice to have a list of all prospects from round 1 to 7/UDFA. Again, I don’t care much about the exact rankings just nice to look at the full list of prospects and blurbs on each one (some over multiple years) broken down by each position. Their web site kind of sucks but it’s free info so can’t complain.

If only we drafted like that. Common sense (last year too SMH) that this draft was the time to pick up a RB. We just tend to be stupid and draft an injured RB (who’ll miss 2 years) as the top RB in a weak class. We actually have a need at RB this year so we should use one of the many day 3 picks on a RB.

True, if McMillan is Mike Evans (some comps), then we should draft him. No idea if he is or not but if he’s truly that level, we’d be stupid to pass him up just because we need defense. There will be plenty of DL busts that are available at 8.

Thanks, I remember way too much stupid stuff. It’s why I probably seem more negative. Close losses don’t excite me because that happens all the time, not just us. 100% agree on the draft. I think we’re so used to crappy drafting that many in here try to fluff up a bad draft. XL could amaze us, but realistically he’s never going to have St. Brown hands and Brooks might have 2 years as Hubbard’s running mate as his best case scenario. That’s a bad draft. As you said, the draft didn’t make us better. We need drafts that make us better. From 2011 to 2014, we added Cam, Luke, Norman, Short, Star, Turner, Norwell and a few more multi year starters. These weren’t even epic drafts but still, in 2021 to 2024, we got Young, Horn, Iky and Hubbard. Not exactly close. Just Cam and Luke alone gave us more value than our entire last 4 drafts. We need stars not just mediocre starters who only play because we lost so much talent.

Nolen might be too early but if he hits and Burch hits in the 3rd that would change the DL overnight. Still some risk at 8. I don’t like the C pick. Awful reach at 57. This C class isn’t close to last year. Last year was the year to draft the C. If you use one or more of the day 3 picks on OL, that’s fine. Add in another edge or CB in round 2, I’d like the draft.

We almost beat both #1 seeds in Rhule’s first year. If we finished 5-1 with the 1 loss being a road playoff game like we did in 2014, I’d be feeling great. We finished 2-5 and got crushed in 2 of our last 4 games. 2024 was a vast improvement but we need a great draft so we get out of the good loss business.

I don’t mean this to disparage you, but duh. It’s why some of us still don’t get why we think Morgan had a solid draft this year. I don’t think the huddle gets what a strong draft is. We haven’t had many in our history but drafts like 2017 that net an MVP level RB, a very solid long career RT and a top K plus role player like Samuel or getting top DTs and top Gs plus a couple more average starters in back to back drafts solidifies a team that goes to 4 out of 5 playoffs. The 2018 to 2024 drafts got a handful of decent players but is basically a net negative talent building. Pick 8 better be a pro bowl level players or we’ll stay where we are. We also need some other picks to hit as well.

That’s not the choice. It’s more like CB2 vs Edge2. With potentially two QBs, one DT, one CB, one Edge being off the table, our choice will probably be between CB2, Edge2 or WR1. If there is a surprise OT or Clelin Ferrell then who knows but we aren’t choosing the 3rd or 4th Edge over CB 2.

So lucky on that call. That was clearly KC jumping first. So far two calls that Philly should have gotten that stopped drives for 3 points that could have been 6 to 14. One call against KC that gave Philly 7. Not horrible yet, but still in KC’s favor. I’m glad Philly at least made the FG.

Spouting religion has nothing to do with preying on the innocent being bad. Preying on the innocent is just plain evil, period.

Let’s be honest, this is just a human thing. Pretty sure evil people are in just about every nook and cranny. The bigger the story, the more we hear about it. I don’t think the Nickelodeon/Hollywood pedos are into religion. Acting as if the removal of religion would turn this world into a wonderful place is very myopic. I don’t think the Catholoc church has assaulted more children than the weird uncles/awful parents of the world, but it’s easier to attack a single entity. Saints suck and I hope they get folded.

SMH. What other teams do this? Other players don’t care about Thielen getting more than his contract. They only care what we offer them and anything extra means we have less to spend.

Again, dude signed a 3 year 25M deal. He averaged 8.3M per year. Why would you add more incentives when you have him under contract? Is your name Marty? I remember when out of respect he gave Greg more money and Greg didn’t earn a penny of it as he missed most of the last couple of seasons with injuries. Thielen is not going to hold out. You don’t just kick more money to him when you don’t have to and he already got the signing bonus up front.

You know he’s already under contact for this year, right? There’s no need to guarantee or add incentives. We either want to keep him or release him. Restructuring would be dumb. We don’t need to push any money down the road for a 5-12 team with a horrific defense.

I haven’t seen enough of him but the 1 game I watched, he didn’t impress me for as much hype as he was getting. Pretty sure Pearce was the top edge guy going into the 2024 season.

So far, it really was. I think the most wanted picks for us were McConkey and a C or CB (would have been Frazier and Sainristill based on who was left). We could have easily traded up too because we wouldn’t have needed to trade up for XL. It’s the same thing for most picks we’ve made over the past 6 drafts starting with Greg Little and Will Grier instead of Jenkins/McCoy and Maxx Crosby (all 3 had private visits SMH).

You’d hope. I don’t feel like we’ve been good at this for a long time.

I’m talking about football talent. Technique is something you can learn and improve. Innate football talent is something that isn’t going to be learned. Bad route runners don’t become great ones. Bad hands don’t become great ones. Edge rushers don’t all of a sudden get amazing bend. There may be a little overlap in that players can improve, but some players just have better football skills. All things equal, sure I want the guy who loves football and is super passionate, but I’m not going to want a passionate guy over Calvin Johnson. The whole Dawg thing was fun at first but that’s supposedly what Dan was looking for and we literally had the worst defense in NFL history. Let’s just hope we draft some god damned good NFL players for once.

Umm, you need to let a combine result overrule the tape when, like @SmokinwithWilly mentioned, Greg Little’s combine drills were the worst of every OL in attendance. He was a PFF superstar with only 1 sack given up. The numbers stuff can exaggerate good or bad too much, but all the drills they run are simulating actual plays/movements so doing poorly/well there is a good way to compare people and to show why you should take a chance on a Trey Smith in the 6th or not waste a chance on Deonte Brown in the 6th because one is skilled and the other benefited from first and second rounders all around him. It really is funny how some of us armchair GMs can see the obvious but the Panthers GMs get fooled way too often.

Before we crown these guys, can we find out who 55 from the team with those silver wings on the helmet is. He was in both highlights and well, he might not be NFL material. Of course I just jinxed us as he will be our surprise 2nd rounder this year.

You are confusing great athletes with talent. XL is a great athlete but I think Coker has shown to be more talented. Running routes and having great hands are “talents” for a WR. DJ Johnson was never considered a great talented edge who just didn’t have enough passion. We need great football players. DL that know how to get leverage, fire off the line the quickest and make plays. If you watched our defense, we had so many guys who couldn’t get off blocks or couldn’t maintain their gaps. Doesn’t mean they didn’t try hard or were bad athletes, they just weren’t good talented football players.

Me too. I saw the top ref and thought they got it but then he backs off as soon as the bottom ref ran up. I forgot about the Worthy play. If Worthy was given the catch then the ground touch made it incomplete. Made no sense. Either you rule an interception and Buffalo QB touched and down before the ball is pulled out or call it an incompletion because the ball touched the ground before Worthy got possession. That was likely an additional 4 points that KC got instead of having to kick a FG.

He did. A frame before or after showed his face and the top of the ball. The spot on 3rd down was also way closer to the first down than the spot was as well. The ball was in his left hand and his helmet was at the line. Using both angles, you could determine it without much difficulty. Refs played their part. No way to know if Buffalo scores or not and what KC does after so it is what it is and Buffalo had their last chance by abandoned all runs and dropped that 4th down throw.

There’s no doubt in my mind that he made it and there’s also no doubt in my mind that it should have been a half yard or almost the entire yard closer on Kinkaid’s catch the play before. Bills still had their chance and blew it (especially taking the XP off the board so early). That’s there MO to mess things up and go away from easy plays and the running game.