Loyalty4Life

Tepper kept Rivera for 2 years and Rhule for over 2. You think he's going to cut bait now on a brand new everything and concede defeat? As the great philosopher, Honey Boo-Boo once said, "Ya'll better rednecognize!" We are winning the division.

Forever. Some things are so entrenched it'll take numerous generations, if it's even possible. Hell, I still say Ericsson Stadium and Lowe's Motor Speedway all the time.

We all live in a simulation.

Remember a couple of weeks ago when Twitter went crazy about the Bears DC retiring because of the most horrible thing you can imagine? That FBI agent Peanut Tillman was leading the case. That the FBI raided the Chicago offices?

What if that WR we are trying to get is Justin Jefferson?

Fitt is doing exactly what he was hired to do. Get the players the coaches want. Fitt went from having no say with Rhule to being a consensus builder with Reich and All Star bunch. If you want him to be a "normal" type of GM where he buys the groceries and the coaches coach, I'd love to see how that would work. Really. Fitt isn't the problem or at the very least we don't know he's a problem. The real problem is Tepper didn't pick a good coach/GM in Rhule when that was the decision how how to build a winning franchise. Since that went so badly it's only taken a horrible start out of the gate after firing nearly everyone in the building to decide that consensus building and working as a team is a horrible way to build a franchise. No matter what decisions are made, if you don't win, it looks like a bad choice. Giving a coach full control wasn't necessarily a mistake. It's worked in the past. Picking Rhule was the giant mistake. Building consensus as the road to building a team can also be a great way to build a team. Pay to get the best people in the building and let them decide together. Pick Reich to put a plan together. Horrible start to the season but we don't know if this plan is a mistake yet or not. We will see.

No matter how good the processor is you can still overload it and fry it or put it in a computer that it doesn't work with or that bottleneck because other parts can't keep up. If 5-6 games is enough for you to change your mind on guys your scouting department have been following and scouting for years then I question your decision to draft no matter if it's the original draft or a redraft.

Corbett coming back will be a big help. I'd read some where that Corbett is the heart and soul and real leader on that line which makes since with his history and having a ring. Play calling will also help a lot as last week's 1st quarter showed us.

Panthers are 0-6 and have not looked good on offense. They have a young QB and a WR core who are struggling. The homeless guy down the street could tell you the Panthers have had discussions with other teams. Fitt talks with every team all the time. I would rather us trade assets that either do not fit with long term plans or who we know/think we can't or won't resign. If the situation with Burns is he's drawn a line in the sand on salary or if you know you're not resigning Chinn then trade Chinn or get a huge package for Burns if you get the offer for his value. If not, franchise him and force him to take less money or trade him for his value. This should not be a fire sale at all. If you can get at least market value since we are already 0-6 then it smart to take it especially since we have no 1st next year.

I wonder if Troy Hill playing so well has anything to do with this little nugget? "Hill, who spent six of his last seven seasons with the Los Angeles Rams, knows two people in particular. The 32-year-old played under Panthers defensive coordinator Ejiro Evero from 2017 to 2020 as well as defensive backs/secondary coach Jonathan Cooley in2020 and 2022—both of whom were on the Rams’ staff during Hill’s pair of Hollywood tenures." https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2023/09/03/panthers-troy-hill-free-agency-reveals-justin-houston/

I don't think Frank is even on the hot seat. Tepper kept Fox for 2 years and Hurney for 3. Went 2.5 with Rhule. Dude is a patient guy or at least understands you have to follow through with your plan. Plus, you fire Frank and then who is the coach. What chance does that person have of being named the permanent coach. So we do the whole flip the whole staff again. Maybe a new GM too. Does the new coach like Bryce. Do we go back to a 4-3 or be a power run team again. Be careful what you wish for.

How and when you call plays can have a big impact on the game. That's why you see the elite teams have all kinds of motions, roll outs, RPO's. They're all trying to fool the defense. Easiest thing for a defense is to play a team they can make one dimensional.

My prediciton Horn comes back and balls out. Burns goes nuts. (We end up tagging him but that's another thread). Defense looks better and we play above the talent we have with several key guys still injured. Our run game starts looking more like last years and Bryce starts dicing up fools as he continues to gel with Thielen but the Young to Mingo connection starts to become a thing. Chuba starts giving people chubs.

Forget Adams. Too old and not worth it for the short term boost. The answer is in the building. Mingo going to be a monster, an AJ Brown type of receiver and Thielen is already elite and will continue to be. We need a young burner and that is who I would target in next year's draft. All our WR are going to suddenly look better without Frank calling plays. Continue to build chemistry. I keep trying to resign Burns until he makes us tag him, then I trade him. Resign Chinn and get him on the field. I don't care if you have to invent a position for him. That dude is a football player. He's my 2nd linebacker and or slot CB/S every play.

I just can't take this. I'm sure you're a really nice guy but what mf'in hump on God's green earth are you talking about. Brees won the SB in 2009 and then proceeded to go to the playoff in 7 of the next 10 years and was only 1 and done in the playoffs twice. If you actually mean the hump is winning the SB then there are only 12 QB's in the history of the NFL with more than 1. 2020 - Wildcard and Division 2019 - Wildcard 2018 - Division and Conference Championship 2017 - Wildcard and Division 2016 - none 2015 - none 2014 - none 2013 - Wildcard and Division 2012 - none 2011 - Wildcard and Division 2010 - Wildcard 2009 - Division, Conference Championship, and won the Superbowl Seriously, am I being punked?

Make of it what you will. https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/list/pass/new-orleans-saints/2018/week

That's a mic drop. For real? I've given you numerous example of proof that he CAN do it. He has the sheer physical ability to throw a football that far. Hey, there's a fact. We seen him do it a lot in college which is a very fair comparison to show if he CAN do it. Look, another supporting fact. I'm also pretty sure he's thrown and completed more than 2 of 7 passes over 20 air yards in the NFL. I'll go take my lazy ass and find out for you. Now, if you'd have come out at the start saying he is not throwing deep when given the chance and opportunity and then followed that up with some type of logical reasoning we'd actually have a discussion. Is it that he can't see a receiver breaking open? Is he staring down shorter routes constantly? Is he bailing out of the pocket to early? What other factors could possibly contribute to the fact that he HASN'T throw many deep shots? Your language comprehension and understanding of concepts is suspect at best as I also looked at "great resources" except I can name mine and explain the context of what they actually said. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJCp_CrZQhI In this video he does say that Chark beat his guy so Bryce Young needs to give his WR a chance. You've got to give your receiver a better chance to catch the ball. But then he actually goes on to explain my favorite word. The why. He says Bryce is basically doing a chunk and duck. In that he's not standing in the pocket to take the shot which many time you have to do in the NFL. He's already shown he can take a hit. That he's chunking it up and turning to protect himself from the hit and when you do that it causes accuracy problems. He also says that this behavior stems from when QB's are getting hit a lot. He continues and points how that would it have helped if the line had been able to pick up that stunt and pressure. That is the one "great resource" that has said he needs to give his receivers a chance. I agree with him on that throw in that instance but also see what factors played a part. He's also hated on the Panthers WR is just about every single video he's done about Bryce as well as how awful our scheme is and how it's putting Bryce in a horrible position. So, your great resource has to be wrong about one of those things according to your facts. Not a single "great resource" has said anything so stupid and factually incorrect as Bryce CAN NOT throw deep balls. I picked up your microphone and I'm keeping it. So, thank you.

Chinn is 2 inches taller and 9 lbs. lighter than Thomas Davis when both did the combine. I know inside backers in a 3-4 are expected to be a little bigger but I'd love to roll the dice with Chinn has a full time backer. Shaq is 6 foot and 229. Luvu is 6'3 and 236. I can't imagine Chinn could not put on 10-15 lbs of solid mass from his combine numbers.

Then at least give me a link. Can you do that. I've asked Google. I've asked Bing. I even asked Santa Claus. Tell me why he doesn't have the ability to throw deep. Tell me why he has only attempted 1 pass over 30 yards. That's why I can't show you him doing in the NFL. He's has barely attempted it. WHY!!!!!!!

My entire collection of NFL jock straps if someone will actually answer this. PS. They are signed and never been washed.

I've backed up what I say with actual evidence and theories and conjecture based in logic and previous facts. Yes, that is my game and it's also the game and anyone that wants to add validity to their argument. I've shown you pockets that were not clean on deep balls. Show me some actual evidence where he had a clean pocket and overthrew his receiver. I can show you numerous clips of him doing it but they were in college so I don't think you'll accept them. I actually worry that he has not done it but it's not hard to see the he has the ability to do it and using a bit of conjecture based on very similar and parallel situations, ie college, that he'll do it in the NFL. We are not talking about reading defenses or something that is drastically different in college than in the NFL. I'll fully agree that he's had clean pocket with openish WR downfield that he didn't attempt to throw deep to and again I'd look at those situation and ask why. All you guys want to do is accerte something is true or fact and then made up a reason why you can't be bothered to actually show or point to any evidence. You stand on invisible facts and evidence that is so easy to find that you can't be bothered to share any of it.

Has not or Can not? Words and what they mean matter?

Tell me why? Please for the love of god, tell me why he has not done it? Why, why, why, why, why?? Pretty please. Humor me and explain it to me like I have above average intelligence.

Also, so we are defining this right, what is a deep NFL throw? How far? Does it have to be down the sideline or can it be down the middle? Is he allowed to stand on someone shoulders while he does it?