Loyalty4Life

Franks script is: Inside zone runs on 1st down for no gain 5 WR all run curl routes. Hank. WR screens that take forever.

What team that remotely needed a QB would not have taken Bryce Young in the top 5. None. If the Texans had gotten the number 1 pick, it most likely would be Bryce in Houston. People need to stop this armchair GM crap. No college player is what he is in his rookie year. Not Brady, not Mahomes, not Bryce, not any QB. No QB and this offense can coexist because the players don't fit the scheme and Frank won't change anything by more than 10 or 15%. Look at what worked today and during the year. Power running. Motion. Heavy sets. Extra protection. PA. OMG, we ran Duo a number of times and got great yards off of it. Our line, WR's and QB absolutely cannot even attempt to be any type of functional offensive unit if we can't pass protect. Bryce get pressure on 40% of his drop backs. Yet, we constantly go 5 wide and ask our line to hold up. Maybe week 12 is where that suddenly works. The drive where we scored today and the 1st drive when Brown took over the play calling should be our offensive.

Oh, my mistake. I must have been the only one who had him as a top draft pick. Don't twist it. Bryce has looked horrible the last two games and a lot of that is on him and his play but any QB in this offense is not being put in a position to excel. No one on this offense is being put into a position to excel. Run blocking line told to zone block. No help on long developing routes. Vanilla scheme. Frank won't do what is necessary. He'll lead this sinking ship playing his style of offense until he's fired. I'll say what I've said the whole year. You can't fully judge Bryce good or bad in this offense. Those 7 sacks were not coverage sacks.

This is what happens when you surround a great QB prospect with horrible scheme and surrounding talent. The last two games Bryce has looked horrible. When the whole team on offense looks this bad it's on coaching and scheme. Every time we play 23 personal and power run we look like we know what we are doing. But Frank always goes back to 4 or 5 wide spread with no protection and Bryce gets smoked. No chance. Zavala looks worse with every snap and yet we still are not giving him help and leaving the line no help with blocking. How many pressures and sacks will it take to get through to Frank.

Someone tell Frank that going 5 wide is now against the rules and just leave the RB in to block every single play on his left side. Also, 70 percent of plays should be out of 12 personal.

D-Jax had a great game. Defense is really playing well with all the injuries they've had to overcome.

I don't know anything about our scouts or what's going on in that area but I'm going to say we should 100% fire everyone.

Don't know why they would fire him now. They just won.

Tepper kept Rivera for 2 years and Rhule for over 2. You think he's going to cut bait now on a brand new everything and concede defeat? As the great philosopher, Honey Boo-Boo once said, "Ya'll better rednecognize!" We are winning the division.

Forever. Some things are so entrenched it'll take numerous generations, if it's even possible. Hell, I still say Ericsson Stadium and Lowe's Motor Speedway all the time.

We all live in a simulation.

Remember a couple of weeks ago when Twitter went crazy about the Bears DC retiring because of the most horrible thing you can imagine? That FBI agent Peanut Tillman was leading the case. That the FBI raided the Chicago offices?

What if that WR we are trying to get is Justin Jefferson?

Fitt is doing exactly what he was hired to do. Get the players the coaches want. Fitt went from having no say with Rhule to being a consensus builder with Reich and All Star bunch. If you want him to be a "normal" type of GM where he buys the groceries and the coaches coach, I'd love to see how that would work. Really. Fitt isn't the problem or at the very least we don't know he's a problem. The real problem is Tepper didn't pick a good coach/GM in Rhule when that was the decision how how to build a winning franchise. Since that went so badly it's only taken a horrible start out of the gate after firing nearly everyone in the building to decide that consensus building and working as a team is a horrible way to build a franchise. No matter what decisions are made, if you don't win, it looks like a bad choice. Giving a coach full control wasn't necessarily a mistake. It's worked in the past. Picking Rhule was the giant mistake. Building consensus as the road to building a team can also be a great way to build a team. Pay to get the best people in the building and let them decide together. Pick Reich to put a plan together. Horrible start to the season but we don't know if this plan is a mistake yet or not. We will see.

No matter how good the processor is you can still overload it and fry it or put it in a computer that it doesn't work with or that bottleneck because other parts can't keep up. If 5-6 games is enough for you to change your mind on guys your scouting department have been following and scouting for years then I question your decision to draft no matter if it's the original draft or a redraft.

Corbett coming back will be a big help. I'd read some where that Corbett is the heart and soul and real leader on that line which makes since with his history and having a ring. Play calling will also help a lot as last week's 1st quarter showed us.

Panthers are 0-6 and have not looked good on offense. They have a young QB and a WR core who are struggling. The homeless guy down the street could tell you the Panthers have had discussions with other teams. Fitt talks with every team all the time. I would rather us trade assets that either do not fit with long term plans or who we know/think we can't or won't resign. If the situation with Burns is he's drawn a line in the sand on salary or if you know you're not resigning Chinn then trade Chinn or get a huge package for Burns if you get the offer for his value. If not, franchise him and force him to take less money or trade him for his value. This should not be a fire sale at all. If you can get at least market value since we are already 0-6 then it smart to take it especially since we have no 1st next year.

I wonder if Troy Hill playing so well has anything to do with this little nugget? "Hill, who spent six of his last seven seasons with the Los Angeles Rams, knows two people in particular. The 32-year-old played under Panthers defensive coordinator Ejiro Evero from 2017 to 2020 as well as defensive backs/secondary coach Jonathan Cooley in2020 and 2022—both of whom were on the Rams’ staff during Hill’s pair of Hollywood tenures." https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2023/09/03/panthers-troy-hill-free-agency-reveals-justin-houston/

I don't think Frank is even on the hot seat. Tepper kept Fox for 2 years and Hurney for 3. Went 2.5 with Rhule. Dude is a patient guy or at least understands you have to follow through with your plan. Plus, you fire Frank and then who is the coach. What chance does that person have of being named the permanent coach. So we do the whole flip the whole staff again. Maybe a new GM too. Does the new coach like Bryce. Do we go back to a 4-3 or be a power run team again. Be careful what you wish for.

How and when you call plays can have a big impact on the game. That's why you see the elite teams have all kinds of motions, roll outs, RPO's. They're all trying to fool the defense. Easiest thing for a defense is to play a team they can make one dimensional.

My prediciton Horn comes back and balls out. Burns goes nuts. (We end up tagging him but that's another thread). Defense looks better and we play above the talent we have with several key guys still injured. Our run game starts looking more like last years and Bryce starts dicing up fools as he continues to gel with Thielen but the Young to Mingo connection starts to become a thing. Chuba starts giving people chubs.

Forget Adams. Too old and not worth it for the short term boost. The answer is in the building. Mingo going to be a monster, an AJ Brown type of receiver and Thielen is already elite and will continue to be. We need a young burner and that is who I would target in next year's draft. All our WR are going to suddenly look better without Frank calling plays. Continue to build chemistry. I keep trying to resign Burns until he makes us tag him, then I trade him. Resign Chinn and get him on the field. I don't care if you have to invent a position for him. That dude is a football player. He's my 2nd linebacker and or slot CB/S every play.

I just can't take this. I'm sure you're a really nice guy but what mf'in hump on God's green earth are you talking about. Brees won the SB in 2009 and then proceeded to go to the playoff in 7 of the next 10 years and was only 1 and done in the playoffs twice. If you actually mean the hump is winning the SB then there are only 12 QB's in the history of the NFL with more than 1. 2020 - Wildcard and Division 2019 - Wildcard 2018 - Division and Conference Championship 2017 - Wildcard and Division 2016 - none 2015 - none 2014 - none 2013 - Wildcard and Division 2012 - none 2011 - Wildcard and Division 2010 - Wildcard 2009 - Division, Conference Championship, and won the Superbowl Seriously, am I being punked?

Make of it what you will. https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/list/pass/new-orleans-saints/2018/week