LinvilleGorge

Yeah, they've definitely been spending like drunken sailors. Not sure where they currently sit.

Everything McNair has been doing with the Texans for awhile now has been counter productive.

You're not just going to have to give up a 2nd rounder, you're also going to have to offer a contract that NE (a team with a LOT more cap room than we have) won't be willing to match. Just saying.

Agreed. Everything that has been done this off-season points to him valuing his ego and his way or the highway approach over actually running a competent organization and fielding a winning team. Like I said earlier, this being a hit job would fit right in with how things have been going for McNair and the Texans.

Yeah, I'm not going to go so far as to call these women liars until more information becomes available (and let's be honest, the "information" is highly likely to be of the he said/she said variety), but man... there are a LOT of factors that pile up to this being an orchestrated PR hit job. 1. Clout chasing lawyer known for outlandish BS (cartoonish mayoral campaign, parking a WWII tank in his yard, etc) 2. Attorney has (or at least claims to have) connections to McNair. Bragged about being friend and neighbor during aforementioned cartoonish mayoral campaign. 3. Timing. Right when it looked like the tide was turning on the will Watson be traded or will the Texans dig in saga... this.

Locking this one for a bit to force the migration of this topic to the appropriate thread.

It's worth noting that this lawyer has already been accused of faking text messages during his mayoral campaign and it seems like these cases (or at least one of them) is going to lean on a supposed text message conversation. Nothing would be more hilarious than to see McNair and this clout chasing lawyer go down in flames for a PR hit job.

Would I be shocked in the least to find out McNair is ultimately behind this? Nope. Every time I think he can't possibly be any dumber, he proves me wrong. Seeing him double down on ego at the expense of his own organization would honestly fit like a glove with how we've seen him handle his team.

It's definitely inconsistent watching you all of a sudden act like you haven't been stumping for enormously wealthy and powerful people with half the posts you make on this forum.

This has been a great thread. Can we maybe migrate all this other stuff to the "allegations" thread and keep this one more focused on talk of a potential trade?

Folks, we aren't going back to the days when this forum was endless threads of constant race baiting. Consider this a warning to all.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/18/second-lawsuit-filed-lawyer-claims-six-total-claims-are-coming-against-deshaun-watson/ To say nothing about the veracity of the claims by the women involved, for or a guy who claims to not be doing it for the attention, this ambulance chaser sure is doing a LOT of talking about himself and his accomplishments. For a guy who claims to not be doing it for the money, it'll be interesting to see what happens with any of his payouts if there ends up being any money collected in these suits. Spoiler alert: they'll end up in his bank account.

Glad Curtis got paid. We all knew he was most certainly gone. We can't afford to pay a #3 WR like that with the holes we have on the roster.

I imagine things are pretty much stalled until there's some clarity to this situation.

Certainly convenient timing and the lawyer behind it is a McNair family friend and neighbor. If Watson and his crew can prove the McNair's are behind it, Watson may be off the table because he might be the new owner of the Houston Texans by the time this is over. LOL!

This desperately needs context. The Texans had a dominant D pre-Watson. Texans defensive ranking by year: 2013 - 7th 2014 - 16th 2015 - 3rd 2016 - 1st 2017 - 20th 2018 - 12th (11-5) 2019 - 28th 2020 - 30th The average ranking in the four years prior to Watson was 6.75. The average ranking in Watson's four years was 22.5.

Oh wee mayne.

I'd take a conditional 7th next year just to unload his contract.

Maybe. With some young elite defenders, good offensive weapons, and a focus on the OL I definitely do not rule out competing for a SB within that timeframe if we add an MVP caliber QB.

The irony here is that was the Texans pre-Watson. They had a GREAT defense and were a QB away. It just took them a little too long to get their QB and they missed their window. I want to trade for Watson but I want Burns, Brown, and Chinn off the table.

The Bucs were 5-11, 5-11, and 7-9 over their last three years. Turned out they actually WERE a QB away from competing for a championship and in case you haven't been paying attention, the Saints' QB just retired.

As good as Watson is, I think if I was in their position I'd do the same. Yeah you're rolling the dice on a talented rookie panning out and plenty don't but you're also retaining a boatload of draft equity that would otherwise be headed to Houston.

He knows the score.

You might as well go ahead and get your next alt ready.

The writing has been on the wall for months. Some people have just performed Olympics level mental gymanstics to deny it.