JawnyBlaze

Yea, would have been nice to have a storybook ending, but either (hopefully) Rhule will be gone and the new coach will want to draft his own guy or Rhule will be back and it’s all doomed anyway.

I don’t disagree. I think he’ll OC for some college and do well, be more picky the next time he jumps to the pros and do better. With Teddy, Sam and our oline, it would be hard on any coordinator. I for one thought the best group of skill positions we’ve ever had would be enough, but they weren’t enough to drag Teddy’s ass to any kind of production and after failing again gave up before halfway through this season.

That he wouldn’t play out his contract? The proof is his entire career. He’s never been anything but the ultimate teammate. There’s no proof he was demanding an extension at all, much less a “giant one” and even much less wouldn’t play without one. edit: the belief that he wasn’t going to was based on some instagram comments that he wanted some commitment. That’s a huge gap from “wouldn’t play without a huge extension”. For all we know what he wanted was some verbal commitment or something. Speculation was running wild (as usual) with zero accountability.

Hell no. Rivera was not a good coach, and absent drafting another Cam, Smitty, Gross, Kalil, Peppers, Star, Hardy, Kuechly, Gamble, Norman, and three more good offensive linemen within the span of a couple drafts, we weren’t going to win a Super Bowl with his coaching and coordinators.

Same difference. Year two. Whatever it is that makes a coach a leader of grown men, Rhule doesn’t seem to have it. That was Rivera’s sole redeeming quality.

This “giant extension” rumor was just that. The mistake that initiated everything was not letting him finish his contract.

He’s a great coach but doesn’t seem to get along with people long term. I’ll be optimistic if he is who we get.

Rivera’s one thing he had going for him is that players didn’t quit on him til the end. Rhule lost the team after week four of year two.

Rivera shoulda been gone then (and if the right call had been made maybe we’d still have whoever replaced him and a Super Bowl trophy as well) and Rhule should be gone now. The biggest difference is then we had (young) Cam so the team had hope.

Obviously Cam. One poor game where no one on the team was helping him at all doesn’t negate the game + 8 plays before that where he showed he’s still good.

Pederson is probably my top choice followed by Bienemy. I wouldn’t want Leftwich, a name that’s circulated. How much of them doing well is actually thanks to Leftwich. Same with Moore. I’d prefer someone more experienced after the horror show the past two years have been, but not someone stuck in the past like Rivera and his ineptitude.

Glad it happened. Even though the source of the problem isn’t gone, we’re one step closer. This was something that was going to have to happen for Rhule to run out of excuses and finally get the boot himself. Better now than the end of the season. Still five games worth of rope for Rhule to hang himself with.

Better question is how much the mistake to cut Cam and sign Teddy in the first place cost us.

I have no problem with the “win now” moves made during the season. Gilmore for a sixth was a no brainer. The trade for Henderson is looking less promising but I still have no problem with it. A 3rd for a young CB with potential isn’t bad. The mistakes were made before the season (and last season, cutting Cam and signing Bridgewater). The most egregious mistakes were the QB decisions and the OL decisions. Both sets of mistakes were HUGE.

I think in most cases it’s a matter of losing faith in Rhule. DJ and Anderson have been very obviously mailing it in for weeks now. Brown and Chinn are studs that are being misused. Carter was never that good. He’s a placeholder and backup. Burns is good but he’s not a dominant DE, too small for that. Probably deserves more credit than he gets around here, he might “barely miss” a lot but when he barely misses someone else often benefits from it. Snow’s scheme is good against some offenses but he isn’t good enough to adjust apparently.

Just at a glance Zane is 90% this year and Gano is 88%. Obviously there are other factors to consider, but the big one to me will be how he kicks under pressure. We’ll see. I don’t hold my breath with Zane like I did with Gano.

That’s an interesting take. We’ll find out when a game is on the line whether Zane pulls a Gano special and chokes.

Rivera was terrible. Rhule isn’t any better but I’d rather at least try. Same situation as with Gano. He wasn’t good enough and had to go. We had to go through Slye to get to Gonzalez.

I just hope we don’t make the mistake we made with Rivera. I said he should have been fired after the second season and I was right. So should Rhule. And Rhule probably won’t find a young Cam next year to save his job like Rivera had.

Hah indeed it did. But in my defense, last year was the finest individual year of coaching this team has had imo. Just a shame it all came crumbling down this year. His failures this year have been not playing the right people (a Rivera special), making terrible QB decisions and ultimately completely losing the locker room which was the clincher. Last year his nepotistic hires didn’t hurt us as bad as they seem to have this year, or at least it wasn’t as painfully obvious.

Defense has been a mirage. It has talent but I don’t know if it’s the scheme or the practice or the game plan or what, but they’re easy to exploit. That “always on the field excuse” might have worked for some games but not all. Not the past two for sure, with the WFT and Dolphins marching all over them the whole game.

Not even the clusterfug that is our current coaching situation would have me missing Rivera. Not saying we have it better now, but would never want that guy back.

Hire someone that isn’t going to stuff the coaching staff and team with just their buddies.

He is showing a much better ability to escape than he ever did, it’s called stepping up in the pocket. He’s maneuvering within [what passes for] the pocket now better than he ever did. Is he gonna shuck dudes that hit him square like a 25 year old Cam? Of course not, that’s stupid. But I’ve seen a bunch of plays these past two games where old Cam would have moved back or looped around and had to shuck a dude but instead he stepped up and shifted a little and avoided meaningful contact altogether.