JawnyBlaze

Like many other narratives, that was just a speculation that kept getting repeated until simple minds just accepted it as true. For all we know Tepper wanted Stroud, Reich wanted Young and Tepper let him take who he wanted. When the decision proved to be comically bad, that’s why Tepper fired him in the middle of his first season, because it was such an easily avoided mistake. That’s also basic speculation but makes more sense with all factors included. No one knows or will know who was team Stroud and who the dummies were except the three people involved in the decision and there’s no way any of them will give a straight truthful answer about it either.

My Bucs fan buddy said the same thing. Texted me an hour ago he was dreading this news of us hiring him.

Everyone here that knows exactly how much input he had in the building of this roster, raise your hands. No one? Not one soul? Yea didn’t think so. A lotta assuming and overreacting as usual.

Wow people are really shitting on him for not shitting on his players in his presser? Has anyone in the history of ever given an introductory presser saying “yes this roster fuging sucks. I’m going to nuke it into oblivion. That highly drafted LT that struggled in his second year? Yea fug that guy. He’s cut. Next question.”

Well I did put sanders in a different category from the others. I dunno how true that is but I can believe that more than the other three wouldn’t be better with a better QB

That’s in retrospect. If we had a QB that could get them the ball and coach/OC that were competent it’d be a different story.

Read earlier that Suleiman is out.

But he’s never gone internal before. This is a new strategy. Didn’t he hire a firm to help him? What if this was their suggestion?

I respond all the time. I mean you referenced a response of mine. Once someone has proven to be a brick wall, I stop banging my head against it.

That’s why you get poo. You’re a ***** psycho. I didn’t say he’s great. I said he’s not necessarily a yes man. To make your statement look even more stupid, Nas said in his thread he knows a guy that knows Morgan and Morgan was the only one that would stand up to Tepper. And that’s the guy Tepper hired. Should make you think about reevaluating your biases. But I’m sure it won’t.

Came here to pie for OP’s input

I give out a lot more pie than I do poo. Just when I see especially ignorant or egregious posts they get the poo. No one here saw Morgan say behind closed doors our roster was fine or pick Bryce over Stroud.

No. If someone is offered a GM job (or HC job) 99% of the time they accept. No matter how bad the roster is. There have been far worse than ours.

Chark, Thielen and Hurst were all good signings. Sanders too, arguably. They just didn’t work out because we had no one throwing them the ball and defenders could cheat against the run game because there weren’t going to be any catchable passes over 10 yards.

No idea. If they haven’t held the OC position before I have no clue how they’ll do. Thomas Brown seemed like a pretty good bet that didn’t work out so great.

For all we know he was telling Fitterer to go a different direction. The narrative is that Reich wanted Stroud and Mr Meddlesome said no take Young. Maybe Morgan was also team Bryce. For all we know Morgan wanted to shore up the line more but Fitterer either ignored him or didn’t have the means to make it happen. We have no idea what Morgan thinks or how he plans to turn the team around.

How tf do we know this?

Neither do any of the people here claiming he’s a yes man and a disaster of a hire.

That would require common decency. You clearly have unrealistic expectations for this place.

Just wondering where this yes man narrative came from? Keeping an open mind, I have no idea how he’ll do. Never do with these GM hires because we never have any clue how involved and what roles they actually played in their previous non-GM positions. Only exception I can think of is Hurney, because he had been a GM before and we KNEW he was horrible and hired him back anyway.

Unless they do something to replace him before the season, they’re going to ride with him all season long unless he gets injured. Gotta get every bit of evaluation in for the following year before pulling the plug on a guy that cost us two #1 overalls, two second rounders and a good WR. The side benefit will be tanking. Doesn’t have to have anything at all to do with Tepper.

Stand pat then look to draft his replacement in 2025 if he doesn’t take a huge leap in year two. If he doesn’t take that huge leap then 2024 is a wash anyway, let him noodle arm us straight to the #1 pick and his replacement.

Two metrics already listed here, pocket time and time to throw, have the OL ranked at 6th and 14th. Not that bad. Once you start buying into PFF’s subjective rankings then maybe it drops.

The trade up wasn’t the problem, it’s who we took. If the trade includes who we actually got in the trade then it’s an F ***** minus. Just the trade value on its own merits I’d still go with a B.