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If Brady's system is as quarterback friendly as advertised then it should help Darnold immensely. I hope he has a high football IQ. Because from what I have read you need to be able to manipulate defenses by moving personnel to get favorable matchups. Something Teddy did very well. Then build a wall in front of him to give him confidence. And if the coaches are great teachers there is every reason to believe that Darnold can thrive in this system as long as he is accurate and can read and react quickly.

This is exactly what free agency is all about. Fill in the holes so we can focus on the best values in the draft. If there is a QB we really like at 8 then we get him. Darnold's money is not going to stop us from bringing in a draft pick at QB. And if no one is there we have to settle for the first or second best left tackle prospect or heaven forbid the best corner or best D lineman to pair with Brown. All because we have the luvury of not chasing a QB in the draft and giving up the farm.

If he plays well we got our QB for the future and it cost a fraction of what it would have cost to move up in the draft and pick a rookie who is unproven as well. I think it was surely a risk but not a huge one.

That would be my fall back position. Because unless you can trade him and only be on the hook for signing bonuses and guaranteed money, you end up eating a ton of dead cap if you cut him.

I think the renegotiation is to keep him at a reasonable rate if he can't find another team That sets the price. I wonder if new Orleans is interested now that Teddy knows our whole system. Not sure we should be ushering him out so quickly. We could use a cheap vet to mentor these guys. Just not 22 million for a timid starter.

I am always more excited in April being a new year. I hope Darnold is awesome and we draft some pieces like a great TE and a legitimate left tackle and a corner who can press. We will have plenty of time to see how they do with will tell us a lot about how good our coaches really are.

We weren't competing against another team for Darnold. We were giving the Jets enough to make it more advantageous to trade him versus keep him. We won't know if it is a good trade for a year or more. Frankly I said to do this last week so I think it will be a good move. I like the aggressive attitude

If Darnold is a hit then it will be a slam dunk. If he doesn't play well then it didn't cost that much for a potential starter. Frankly I l.ike management coming in and swinging for the fences.

Extending Moton will save cap not cost cap. First year cap costs on several year extensions are always cap friendly since the signing bonus is prorated. Unless it is front loaded where most contracts are back loaded.

Exactly. Simple logic which seems in short supply.

If he said that the first 3 picks were Trevor, Wilson and Jones and didn't mention another one and it is Detroit's pick at 7 the reasonable thing to think is that the rest are on the board and that includes Lance and Fields. I guess what you call changing the goal posts, I would call reading comprehension and simple logic. My response was to the question of whether we would make the move if we thought someone else would jump ahead. I told him why I wouldn't make the trade at that point either. No one talked about something before that. Try to keep up.

Apparently you still don't.....

Not true at all. You do care who you get but again is Lance worth giving up 2 firsts over Fields which costs nothing or the other way around. We are talking the 4th or fifth best guy not the first or second. At what point are either such a slam dunk to get into a bidding war.

But again unless you have Lance way over Fields you will get one or the other. Or we could trade down and let someone who loves Fields give us the farm to get him and we can get a vet like Darnold for a 4th and draft a guy in the second and still be way ahead of the game. Especially if it true that we don't love anyone except for Trevor or Fields

Then unless we think Lance is so much better than Fields we just let them and pick Fields and save our picks. Or that team picks Fields and we get Lance.

https://www.derp/2021/4/1/22362214/carolina-panthers-trade-up-gamble-on-quarterback-trey-lance-nfl-mock-draft-todd-mcshay-espn Maybe it is just me but why would we trade up from 8th to 7th with Detroit to pick a guy who will be there anyway. If they really wanted Lance they wouldn't make the trade and they likely won't go QB after trading for Goff. They need weapons around him like WRs. If Detroit wanted a QB I could see us trading ahead of Detroit if we thought they wanted Lance but not with Detroit. Tell me where my thinking is flawed

Brooked also rated Tua as the best QB in 2020 and Haskins as his favorite in 2019. In 2018 it was Josh Rosen as number 1 and Lamar Jackson number 4 and Josh Allen number 5. In 2017 he had Watson and Kizer and Trubinsky in front of Mahomes. So not sure that he would garner much credibility here. His track record isn't that great.

The fact that you see everything as black or white and not in terms of who you are and what you have done is very telling to me. That is what the race card is about. Seeing everything in terms of race and judging someone based on the color of their skin and not who they are incide or how they act. You perpetuate the problem as much as the folks you complain about. As if black people don't have stereotypical views of white people the same as they may have of black people. How do you think your statements help guide or inform the conversation.

There are lots of problems out there that need to be addressed but you didn't talk about race in historical terms you were specifically talking about the current crop of college prospects and playing the race card. Trust me I lived through the Chicago riots, the southern marches and actually met Dr. King. I could tell you a lot about those times you have no clue about. Be careful backpedalling so fast that you fall and hurt yourself.

He ran a 4.33 on his proday but reportedly had been clocked as fast as 4.25 but I never saw official verification of that.

The defense wasn't good last year. We were good when we blitzed and pressed and sucked when we went zone and rushed 3. It was a case of the stats looking better than the results. And it wasn't bad coaching it was a college coach learning to get better in the NFL. His 3-5-3 concept wasn't that great in the NFL. Guys like Chinn and Burns made it look better than it was And Garoppollo's problems are injury related not skill. Through 8 games in 2020 his record is 24-8. He took them to a Superbowl in 2019 and would be solid if he could stay healthy. And once again you use a true exception to the rule in Wilson to justify starting a rookie despite the overwhelming evidence to show it is best to give them time to learn the game. You aren't alone though many folks including NFL execs make the same mistake every year

How many guys flame out because they are put into a situation as a starter on often not good teams where they flounder instead of flourish. That is because they were not ready to carry the team and needed to sit and watch and understand the game before being thrown in there. The success of some guys like Mahomes has make fans think that it is easy to come in as a rookie and play right away or after taking your drubbings they will come back the next year and be a star. Great fantasy. Reality is that for every Mahomes you have there are tons of first rounders who flame out or become backups and journeymen. Frankly if they weren't first rounders they wouldn't have lasted as long since folks hate to be wrong on their first rounders. And the guys we are going to get all have great physical talent but suspect ability to read defenses and go through progressions, and wouldn't have a clue how to move personnel to force the defense into undesirable matchups. All things Teddy actually does very well. It would be a great combination because they have the athleticism he lacks and he has the mental and football knowledge they lack having never played a snap in the league. It is exactly what we need. And if you played sports at a high level you know that coaches teach but the veteran guys really translate the nuances to the younger guys on the practice field where players learn the game. When Shanahan brought in Garoppollo, who was already a veteran at the time, he sat him for six months until he knew the offense before putting him as the starter. Bringing in a rookie who is the 4th or 5th best guy in the draft and starting him in this offense day 1 would be a disaster. This offense is much more evolved and precise than the one Cam came into his rookie year. You don't just step right in unless it is adapted and simplified until things slow down and you are ready for more complexity.

You clearly are confused. A mentor teaches others in the classroom and in practice which is where most work is done. Game reps only are good if done correctly. There are tons of QBs with lots of game experience who still struggle because they make poor decisions and for which the game doesn't slow down. It slows down in practice not the game. The game is for demonstrating what you have learned in practice and on film. So yes many great mentors and coaches aren't the best athletes but guys who understand the game and how to teach. And we are not cutting Bridgewater June 1. Given 10 million of his salary is guaranteed this year cutting him would cost 20 million in dead cap. Even a June 1st resignation sonly pushes 5 million to next year. So we keep him at 22 million or cut him and waste 20 million whether it is all this year or 15 and 5 next year. Hardly a smart move. No the play here would be trade him if possible and his guaranteed money goes to the other team. Otherwise keep him and use him as a mentor. Those are your only reasonable options

Most successful and Superbowl winning QBs are game managers. A gunslinger like Favre won 1 Superbowl in his whole career with arguable good personnel. Brady has won a bunch with arguably mixed personnel. Some years great others not so much.

Stop the race-baiting. We were willing to give up the farm for Watson and he is black. Meanwhile the knock on Darnold is he can't read defenses and makes poor decisions and he is white. Not only is your insinuation offensive but very inaccurate.