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Panthers met with Hooker per report
Soul Rebel replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
IIRC, Hooker was a one-read QB with happy feet and is coming off an ACL injury at 25 years old. I trust Reich/Brown/McCown, so if Hooker is the guy we go with, so be it. It's appearing more and more like Stroud/Young go 1-2 and then AR probably top-7 as Levis' stock is plummeting. -
Thomas Brown - A Closer Look (via The Athletic)
Soul Rebel replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
I think TE is bookmarked for that first 2nd round selection….if not perhaps moving up early 2nd. A Musgrave/Kincaid + Tremble at TE2 would be a menacing duo.- 21 replies
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Levis was already my 4th of the Big 4 and this article makes me have more trust in Hooker. Levis has all the physcial makeup and blueprint to be a top notch QB1 but not any of the production/stats/tape to show that he can translate it over.
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I hope there's smoke to this fire, because I would be stoked for Fields. I know he's primarily been a runner with subpar passing stats/tape in CHI, but the first year or two is the stage that is the toughest as these rookies get acclimated to the NFL. Fields has spent this time in Chicago and now we would inherit him as he's starting to trend upward. He would also cost a lot less than a move up for an unknown rookie. Also, Poles/Eberflus did not draft him, so maybe there is that old addage of wanting "their guy" and handpicking from the best of the best this year would help them reset while using draft assets to add players around Young/Stroud.
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We have our coaches. What schemes will we run?
Soul Rebel replied to Cam's New Arm's topic in Carolina Panthers
I wonder if Rapp is going to be too expensive for us as a FA. He is ideally who we need to bring in beside Woods and allow Chinn to slide down closer to the LOS. Bozeman and either Foreman/Jamaal Williams need to be our top priorities, but after that Rapp would be a huge get to solidify our backend. I think we can add a TE and DL in R2. -
Coaching Staff: Final Pieces (as of 2-23-23)
Soul Rebel replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
I just don't see any way that Carr is the answer at QB with the architecture of this coaching staff. It's gotta be one of two paths: Trade for Lance or Fields and still have draft capital to add more pieces Move up to get Stroud/AR/Young -
We are so set up for success for the next few years.... Evero and Brown are locked in, but have capable replacements that should be able to take over in two years. Wash could be back in play for a second tour as an NFL DC and Duce will probably take over at OC. I cannot wait to see what these coaches can do together. They are like Voltron and stronger as the sum of their parts. Very balanced between experience, knowledge, youth, ingenuity and connectability. I think the NFL is already talking about how different we are going to be and fearing what's about to come out of the QC. And for all of those that needed that warm and fuzzy "local ties/Carolinas native" filler, Reich has that covered too....and Capers....and Duce.....and McCown.
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Hoping pen goes to paper today after Brown had a night to digest. Only holdup could be internal debate amongst leadership of Brown vs. Patullo maybe? I saw IND is eyeing JBC and Tee Martin for potential OC. I thought Patullo was a slam dunk for Steichen's right-hand man, but saw them interviewing multiple other candidates. I wonder if Reich wants Patullo and they are trying to decide.
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It has been an entertaining offseason with a few curveballs. Harbaugh wanting to come here....nope. Payton potentially on the radar.....negative. Ben Johnson.....went back to be an OC instead of HC. Wilks.....thanks, but no thanks. Steichen.....pass. Evero and Caldwell interviewing for HC, but coming onboard anyway Capers as a Sr Assistant McCown, once considered for HC in Houston, comes onboard to help mold QBs Duce, once considered for HC in Philly, comes here as a RB coach One position coach to go, and I think it's going to be another homerun. The last thing we have on our "to do list" this offseason is get our QB1.....here's hoping we get it right.
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Intriguing...... It would appear that we are down to JBC, Brown and I'm guessing, Patullo. I just don't see why Johnson would leave Philly with the program they've built and the ties to Jalen Hurts. Really hoping we announce Brown today/tonight and put a bow on this hiring cycle.
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I really hope the Panthers are "showing interest" in order to drive up the price for the rest of the NFCS. There's no way Fitts, Tepper and Reich don't have PTSD after the past few years of other teams' castoff QBs. We could add two younger studs with the $32M+ we'd spend on Carr. Give me Da'Ron Payne at $19M per or Dre'Mont Jones at $10M, Okereke at $6-7M, or Geisicki/Shultz. Brissett isn't Carr, but the value he would bring at his $$ amount makes WAY more sense than a 32-year old Carr here.
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Wide Receivers Coach: TBD - Hoping Wayne comes over from Indy Tight Ends Coach: TBD - Wonder if we hire Brown if Jake Peetz could be a boomerang option? Defensive Line Coach: TBD - Eric Henderson in LA won DL Coach of the Year. Doubt McVay lets him go, but would be a solid hire with ties to Evero and Cooley. The homer in me wants Buckner here for a reunion. Safeties Coach: TBD - Mike Mitchell. Please....and thank you.
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Bieniemy was on a SB staff. Rumor is that all of those matchups and wide-open receivers were schemed by Bieniemy, and not Reid.
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I don't really want Carr, but there is a decent amount of smoke & positives circling..... Oddsmakers having us as the top destination We were an average QB away from being playoff bound Reich's interest in Carr before Reich and Carr's religious foundations If Reich, McCown & Caldwell have a glimmer of hope for Corral, Carr gives them a year or two to evaluate/mold No need to give up draft capital to get a QB here; use draft picks to surround offense with a WR & TE Instantly puts us in the driver seat for the NFCS crown Keeps him out of New Orleans Third time's the charm for vet, castoff QB brought in to solve the QB1 issue
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Herbert about to get $50M per...... 20ish% of the cap. IDK.....Lamar's injuries scare me and having a QB on a rookie deal is a blessing. If we give Lamar the $$ he's looking for, the team takes a massive roster hit with less money to spread around. Makes drafting and finding gems off the waiver wire and practice squads more important. By the same token, kinda hard to do when you trade three years' worth of R1 and R2 picks to acquire said asset.
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I think we will be competitive in year one...maybe 9-8 or 10-7 and win the division. I think by '24, we should be more in the 11-6+ category of being a perennial contender in the NFC....something we've never been. Our cap and draft capital might be an issue in '23 getting the QB we want and cleaning up dead cap and/or releases to open up the cap for '24 and beyond. I think next offseason is when we make our leap. Coaching staff has a year to evaluate and the new QB1 will have a year under his belt in Carolina. Would love Bienemy here, but not sure he leaves that situation. If we got him here.....whoooooo, it would be an insane coup of hirings.
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No way Wilks made any sense here in the locker room with a different outside guy being the HC and Wilks, who won the locker room being #2.
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The NFCS is in the midst of a huge changing of the guard. NO would be the only team I'm concerned with if they get Carr at QB. If Carr goes elsewhere, we should run the NFCS for the next two years at minimum. Great time for this coaching staff to make their mark. Odds are Evero departs first for a HC gig. I can also see one of Duce, Caldwell or the next OC being gone by '25.
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I was Team Steichen but have to admit, I don't see any of the HCs this cycle doing what we have done. Even the great and illustrious douche that is Sean Payton....I don't see his staff being one that I would be this excited about.
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From Athletic J Person on Caldwell connections and OC
Soul Rebel replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
Forgot about JBC connection to Caldwell....could make him the leader in the clubhouse now. He wouldn't be the worst hire, but seeing how the Lions' offense improved after he left, makes me want Brown more. Combining Reich's tree with Fangio's tree and then tapping into McVay's tree seems like a helluva trifecta. -
Tremble would be a phenomenal TE2 that can run with a lot of the 12/22 personnel that Reich/Duce would probably desire. As banged up as TEs get, Tremble could also sneak in as a low-end TE1 when needed. If we don't have to cough up 39 in a trade-up, I hope we land Musgrave/Kincaid/Kraft. This offense has needed a TE since Olsen left. Tremble + a TE1 would be a nice return to the Olsen/Shockey production.
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I initially thought Patullo would be Reich's guy, but the way dominos are falling, I don't think we snag anyone from PHI. Patullo probably goes with Steichen to be the OC and Johnson stays in PHI w/ a promotion and his ties to Hurts. At that point, Thomas Brown has to be the guy. I don't see why he would choose TB over us and the potential we have with our coaching staff and a say in the new QB1. Landing Brown would be the final cherry on top of an unbelievable hiring cycle for Carolina.
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5 makes the most sense to move up to with the ties to Seattle, but 3 is probably what it takes to leapfrog IND. That being said, I think the odds of IND moving to 1 is the most probable. Chicago can slide back to 5, but 9 is a bigger stretch for them. We have to hope IND prefers Levis, because I think HOU wants Young or Stroud. I've never been a huge proponent of "do whatever it takes to move up to #1". However, this year based off of the reset button with coaching and offensive philosophy, I'm all in if that's what it takes for CJ. We have enough good pieces to compete with CJ at the helm from '24 and beyond. Let's use '23 to groom him behind Brissett, take any cap hits/dead money on this year to clear us out for 2024. We were a decent coaching staff and mediocre QB away from winning the NFCS.
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I'm still hoping for Wayne. Has ties with Reich, played during the same time period as Duce.
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I think these rumors about being aloof and not a leader is what is saved for guys that they can't really find terrible mechanical or statistical flaws in. Stroud is the inverse of Fields, though similar in stature and QB1 potential but for different reasons. QB evals and analysis are so akin to winning the lottery....there is no exact science to it. You roll the dice whether it's at 1 or 7th round....and everywhere in between. I'd rather gamble on a 6'3" 220lb QB with insane accuracy and ability to throw receivers open from a top-flight collegiate program that has a winning culture than an undersized QB that is going to get tossed around. At some point we have to push our chips in and I don't recall a year where it has ever made more sense. My hope is that Chicago stays at 1 for one of the defensive guys, Houston takes Young at 2 and then we move up to 3 for Stroud. It will still cost us, but not nearly the non-lubed ribbing we would have to cough up for #1 overall. That being said....we have to do whatever it takes for Stroud, IMO. Young and Levis aren't it.