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In all honesty, Sam is a talented QB, who has his struggles (especially consistency), but it's not all his fault. Last year, he was only part of the problem (O-line and no CMC for starters). The Jets, nuff said. He may not be an alpha, but he is we'll liked by his teammates. He could be a Tannehill one day or a solid back up in the future. I do think he would do much better this year with this talented team (especially the O-line) around him. A 2nd year in the offensive system would have been a fair shot too. But, it is what it is. Traded or not, the team has better options for this year and the future than they did the last 2 years.

Why not? If McVay can get Goff to take him to the Super Bowl, why can't he coach Sam to just a couple of wins if needed. He's got real NFL experience.

Just posted on PFT: "Will that mean not practicing at times in the regular season? Maybe. The fact that McVay felt compelled to keep Stafford out of practice so early in camp surely will be spun for the benefit of fans that want and need to see the glass as half full. It’s nevertheless a cause for concern; there’s a major difference between Stafford and John Wolford." The Rams have a history of giving picks away for players. If the Panthers pick up a huge portion of his contract, I can see them trading him for a mid round pick. The Rams are all bought in for the year and need an experienced back up. This could be the reason why Sam is still competing for a starting job. To show he's close to being a starter (didn't say good or not), or at least a top back up and he is better than 1/2 the back ups in the league.

Let's hope no injuries and maybe we trade someone to a WR needy team than just cutting them. I wonder if they would let someone beat out Robby or just automatically give Robby the job? It's a good problem to have. Having 4 WRs and CMC out in routes with a good O-line can be killer. With any QB, just saying.

Even if it's a slightly competition, it's mostly good things. The better Sam is or feels, being our back up or traded, it helps the Panthers. If Baker has to try a little harder to really outshine Sam, and not just be handed the job for doing slightly better, it's good for the Panthers. It's also less pressure on Baker this way to get acclimated to the offense. Yes, more reps with the 1's is helpful but not looking at the bigger picture IMO.

2 thoughts. 1, How can a QB have great stats and the team only wins 4 games? Are they garbage yards and scores after the game is lost? Or don't he not have what it takes to win it at the end? It doesn't add up. Yes, the team was bad but to be that great of a QB, aren't you suppose to elevate the guys around you?

But didn't Tepper say this could take 5 years to build a consistent winner? Year 4 about to start. Let's give him the 5 before judging. Everyone learns along the way as being an owner and HC of a NFL franchise is HUGE and full of pressure. I've hired people that say they have the same vision of me, only later to find out they don't.

What ever happens, we have good options and great back up options. If Brady plays LG and is the back up LT, that's great news. If Brady wins the LT spot and Icky is the LG, he's the back up LT. Then Brown or Cade come in at G. We're in a real good spot how ever it plays out. Erving is the 4th LT. For a 2nd back up, that's really good. Usually it's a rookie or someone with no experience.

They are going to hold onto Sam until A; they know Baker is healthy and knows the playbook. B; Corral could in fact handle playing sooner that later if needed as a back up. Until those 2 questions, they'll keep him. Worse thing during the preseason/early season, Sam doesn't dress and Corral gets the 2nd team reps. I don't think they would get a call for Sam preseason, but a few games in to the year for a good team without a real option. Even if it's only for 3 or 4 games to cover with their starter out, then paying 4-5 mil for Sam would be worth it to them. But by then, we'll answer those first 2 points.

Can't fault the team for always trying. Some work out, some don't. Who knew Teddy wouldn't be as good as expected. We gave more picks for Sam because we got him before the draft and Baker is damaged good and in a no win situation from his team, that's why we got him cheap. I hope there's a QB battle. Imagine Sam wins

I see and feel a much different team vibe. I really believe this team can win some games (8, 9, maybe even 10). My hope is they make the playoffs but they're not ready to compete for the SB. They did better than expected in FA and the draft and even more importantly, they brought in good coaches. I am optimistic but it's better than already being down before anything happens.

Rhule admitted late last year he could have handled Christensen at LT better. We have 2 really good LT's with the double potential of having 2 great ones. Give him a break and let's look towards this year with optimism.

Music. I am the stadium DJ and handle all their events, including game day. I interact with a lot of players and some coaches and they all seem to be on the same page, loose, having fun with each other (unlike a lot of reports).

I spent several hours with the team (players and coaches) today and they seem tight, having fun and really enjoying each other. I see a different team vibe and I believe we are going to see a better team, of certain guys can stay healthy.

Let's say Icky is the starting LT and Brady LG. Bozeman at C, Corbett at RG and Moton at LT. That leaves you Brady and then Erving as back up tackles. Elfein and then, Cade and Brown as back up Guards. Elfein and then Cade as back up center. 9 man crew when it's usually 10 opens up another slot. That should be a top 15 in the league if the gel and stay healthy.

If we can run and keep the ball longer (even score more) I expect the defense to be better, even without Reddick

If Brady becomes the best as the #1 back up for every position, is that a bad thing? If he becomes that good. That means maybe we only need 8 OL instead of 10 dressed per game. Like in Basketball, the 6th guy is extremely important. Or he wins the starting LG position and still is the #1 back up to the other spots. Not bad to know what he can do. If (and should) win the starting LT, Brady is the #1 back up to that spot, which is a good thing.

IMO it takes time to learn an entirely new process and league. Throw in Covid 2 months after he got the job it took longer and was harder to learn. He had Hurney the first year. IMO injuries and some rough decisions derailed 2021. But between Tepper, Rhule, Fritterer and Morgan, they are figuring it out and appear to be better and more comfortable. It takes time. I was a successful DJ in the private event world and got the job to be an NFL DJ, it was completely different process, system and language. The first 2 years I was OK, and struggled, but they saw something in me to stay with it. I became one of the better DJs in the NFL (my ratings from in game NFL personal, to the NFL asking us for music we play during parts of the game, etc). It was electric in the stadium, especially from 2013 to about 2017/18. It took time. Maybe Rhule just needed time and Tepper, who's a very smart businessman needed some time too. But I see the foundation and changes they're talking about and it's not easy to get there, especially when everybody critiques every move. There are gonna be mistakes along the way. Let see how this year and next year play out. We weren't going to win the SB in 2022 and Tepper said he always wanted to build a consistent winner that's in the playoffs every year with a chance to win it all some times.

While I agree with the post, a lot had to do with no CMC and not a good OL. We just didn't have the horses to do that last year, especially when they fired Brady.

What's cool is moving Brady to LG leaves him as the best option to back up Icky at LT. That's not bad. Just need another swing T as the 2nd back up.

When Tepper explained what went wrong last year, he was saying there was "extenuating circumstances". CMC, Horn and other injuries. Even Sam stepped up after a few games in the game he got hurt. Dallas exposed our weaknesses. Cam didn't have a chance as it was all emotion at that point and that wasn't enough. The only big thing I believe Rhule did wrong, he admitted, not using BC at LT sooner (or the way they brought him along). I even think Erving has the skills to be a good LT, maybe he wasn't coached up. And I think OC Brady didn't help us. He was auditioning for a HC job, not trying to build the Panthers. He should have at least 4 years as long as we don't tank in 2022. 8 or 9 wins and progress is all I need. I want 10 wins and a wild card.

What stands out is the twitch, the quick shoulder fake, change direction and throw. That's a Tom Brady quality. He redirects the coverage away from where he wants to go. That's big league and if Sam learned that, would have been much better. I see (and hope) for a future Russell Wilson. Both 3rd round picks!

Just had the round wrong.

Having Brady as a G and back up T is the best route. Draft a LT. Erving goes from starter to 3rd on the depth chart is a good move.

Barring major injuries, we are not picking in the top 10 next year. Maybe mid round, even with Sam if we get a LT and stay healthy. So, having a Malik or good QB to sit the year, or at least a 1/2 year is a benefit to Rhule this year. If he's not here next year, he don't care about losing an early pick in 2023. I'm just saying we walk away with a top LT and still get a QB later in the 1st or early 2nd, they win the PR move and improve the team. Better would be trading for Jimmy G or Baker and not trading the pick but after Teddy and Sam, I think they don't want a re-thread again. I'm NOT saying I want them to trade next years pick, I just think that could happen.