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Here's one thing to consider, and I'm saying this as someone who for years has been on the jim harbaugh bandwagon, could he have done that with any other team or was it just a matter of right place, right time, right crew(players)? If not, then why has he not had a dominant team outside of that? I mean there for a minute Stanford was pretty good, but they also had a pretty good QB. Since San Fran, where has the success been?

That embarrassing episode with minny makes hit pause on harbaugh and question whether or not he's a guy that a team would actually want to work with. Why did they really not want to bother with him. Is his ego too big? Also, Rhule has kind of ruined the idea of hiring a coach out of college for me. The mindset and coaching style for a college coach vs. pro coach is different. I know Harbaugh has pro experience as a player and HC and he's had success, but college coaches coach college ball for a reason that isn't just money. It's where they belong. Same with pro coaches. He might be good, but I would rather look elsewhere....mainly at coaches who coach adults.

We're drafting another corner at 6.

Lol that's true. the hit made the man.

It matters as to the character of the guy that is supposed to be the coach. Character matters, especially for leaders because what they do and say have a profound impact on the people they lead and, to a degree, is a reflection on who they are. If the coach/leader is an ass, it's going to cause problems at some point that are detrimental to the org. they are leading.

Lol don't worry about it. I totally misread the OP as well.

Nah, I thought it was dumb when I saw it was one of the options. Didn't need anyone else's help to see that.

The oline is, ultimately, his fault. It's his team. His guys. It was his position coaches. It's his responsibility to get the best players and make sure they are coached up correctly and doing their job. When they fail, it's up to him to make sure their mistakes are being corrected. If he got up and placed blame on them, he's placing more blame on himself.

Doesn't make him a good leader or a good human, for that matter.

Could be. I think they'll take a drop next year but they'll be tough for a while.

True. Tough era.

It can happen, but not if you aren't willing to 1) acknowledge that you can make a mistake, 2) realize you made a mistake 3) learn from that mistake and 4) rectify that mistake. That goes for Tepper and Rhule. I think Tepper is more likely to be able to let experience teach him and guide him than Rhule.

Good coach. Good leader. They'll be back in it in a year or two. Probably two, making allowance for the Superbowl loss slump.

Yep. Could very well be a wasted pick. If Rhule gets fired, new coach will probably want his guy in there taking advantage of a much better class.

I'm hoping that we have taken steps to rectify this and that Rhule keeps his mouth shut and let's the grownups do their jobs. I don't see that happening. He can't keep from being who he is, a manipulative narcissistic micromanager.

Thsts why he suggested trading for Joe Thomas (in hindsight) might have helped neutralize that jackass von Miller. We haven't valued the OL or shown much ability to help the OL for two coaches now. It has been undervalued and we've shown no ability to judge personnel in our limited attempts to help it.

It won't take 7 or even 5 years to find out what Rhule is capable of. I think most here already know. Rhule has had no sense of urgency because he had that 7 year cushion. If that cushion is taken away, survival depends on being able to acknowledge that your plan isn't working, find a fix, and adapt, putting your fix in place. Good minds can pull this off. Narrow minds can't, neither can dummies. There's a slim chance that Rhule has a good mind in there somewhere, but more likely he's one of the other two. Adapting, should he try it, might look like this:

Lesson from Stafford is to hold out and wait for a contender. Don't go to a bad team. Don't let your old team trade you to a bad team. Play for teams that can get you a ring and that have coaches with experience winning in the pros.

Gotcha. What I get for not really reading the OP . Then yes.... absolutely. We should have gone all in.

Rams were in the Superbowl just a couple years ago and were still relevant. It's not like they were starting from scratch. Plus, they had solid coaching already in place, so they weren't exactly waiting for their coaches to learn that you can't lick your elbows. Not really the same situation. Would take a lot more for us to get there. And, thanks to the genius trades from last year, we don't have nearly the capital we'd need to make it happen....at least not without really damaging the team elsewhere.

If that's the plan, it's pretty stinking risky and it's got "settling for a lesser commodity" written all over it.

They should be top priority but we'll be stuck with scraps. We definitely won't be first or second choice for most and an act of desperation for those who aren't the top FAs.

"what Stewart thinks of Garoppolo now".... I hope it is based on reality and not some glorified opinion of what he could have been.

I think one of the unforeseen benefits of having a more extensive history in the NFL as opposed to coming in pretty much off the street (which is essentially what Rhule did) is having a network. Rhule had none, which is why he went with what he was familiar with....coaches and players from colleges he had coached himself. And also why he went for Darnold. How many teams had Rhule interviewed before? Well 2018 there was the colts. Next year the Jets, then us the following to year. Thats also about the limit of his familiarity with teams and players in the pros. Yeah, sure there was that season where he was the ass line coach an eternity ago. But his limited experience and familiarity with players in the league brought him back to really the only QB in the NFL he didn't coach that he had any familiarity with, Sam Darnold. The smaller your circle, the smaller your world. Small world translates to limited ability to compete in a bigger world.