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Simon Says Newbie

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"Hey Cam. We're getting rid of Smith, LaFell, Ginn and Hixon."

Cam's reaction:

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"Oh, and since Gross is retiring we're just gonna swing Bell over to the left side."

Cam's reaction:

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"Hey there Cam, how's the ankle rehab coming along? Feeling better? Aw, still not talking to us? We're sorry buddy. Look, we got you a new friend to play with!"

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Cam's reaction:

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Good to see a Panther's receiver catching his QB high ball like all the receivers on those so called elite teams. To be competitive, you've got to give your team weapons that they can compete with.

 

True. 

 

I love how people (even Panther fans) love to point out Cam's high balls, as if it's something unique to him. 

 

Just watch the Sunday ticket and red zone every weekend, or even the Playoff's. QB's all over the league (elite, good, bad, indifferent) throw high and under thrown balls all the time, but they're caught on the regular, so no one mentions it or cares. 

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True. 

 

I love how people (even Panther fans) love to point out Cam's high balls, as if it's something unique to him. 

 

Just watch the Sunday ticket and red zone every weekend, or even the Playoff's. QB's all over the league (elite, good, bad, indifferent) throw high and under thrown balls all the time, but they're caught on the regular, so no one mentions it or cares. 

 

High throws are in the footwork, and a lot of big qbs tend to have questionable footwork. A big running qb is the most dangerous combination because he is using his feet for potentially 2 purposes.  Cam throws high when he is pressured a lot or is in that zone where he thinks he may have to bail.  To correct the problem may lead to more sacks (in my opinion).  However, I think his accuracy issues are documented and not the norm around the NFL.

 

Cam had more bad first halves due to this problem.  He was getting the defense's best during the first half and he was often forcing the issue.  However, since our defense was holding the opposition to three and outs, he was able to get more chances and the opposing defenses started tiring in the fourth quarter--the same problem that afflicted us during RR's first years-our Defense gave out late in games.

 

That is how we won with the 28th ranked offense in the league.  Take away Cam's runs and we really were not effective on the ground or through the air.  I do not blame Cam for this, however, I blame injuries on the offensive line and our pathetic WRs, who struggled to get open and hold onto the ball when they did.

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High throws are in the footwork, and a lot of big qbs tend to have questionable footwork. A big running qb is the most dangerous combination because he is using his feet for potentially 2 purposes.  Cam throws high when he is pressured a lot or is in that zone where he thinks he may have to bail.  To correct the problem may lead to more sacks (in my opinion).  However, I think his accuracy issues are documented and not the norm around the NFL.

 

Cam had more bad first halves due to this problem.  He was getting the defense's best during the first half and he was often forcing the issue.  However, since our defense was holding the opposition to three and outs, he was able to get more chances and the opposing defenses started tiring in the fourth quarter--the same problem that afflicted us during RR's first years-our Defense gave out late in games.

 

That is how we won with the 28th ranked offense in the league.  Take away Cam's runs and we really were not effective on the ground or through the air.  I do not blame Cam for this, however, I blame injuries on the offensive line and our pathetic WRs, who struggled to get open and hold onto the ball when they did.

 

Not sure what you mean by this line (bold). But I don't think Cam is any more in-accurate than most QB's around the league (especially for his tenure). If anything, he may be in the more accurate bunch, throwing to small and not so talented receivers since in the league.

 

You know how many QB's get bailed for their high, short and near off the field passes on the regular every weekend (which gets dropped, tipped, missed or intercepted by Panther receivers)? Doesn't matter why it happens (pressure, footwork, etc.) They throw bad passes on the regular, and their receivers bail them out on the regular This is why I'm sure Gettlemen gutted the entire WR group. They sucked, and did Cam no favors (leaving aside the offensive line, and how Cam had to adjust/make due with the pass rush, and it's effects on his throwing). 

 

Bottome Line: Anyone who watches other teams play on the regular KNOW, that all QB's throw high balls and bad ball numerous times during a game (for a multiplicity of reasons, having to do with the QB, Line, and Receiver). I think Cam is singled out here, quite honestly cause most Huddler's appear dumb, insular and oblivious to what happens in the rest of the league!! 

 

Give Cam protection and better receivers, and watch the magic. He's already demonstrated this, when the line and his receivers (first year) were better. 

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