Graham ruled a tight end

[Zaximus]

Players such as lets say Godfrey being moved to CB. He has officially been moved to that position. He not a safety any longer but a CB. Jimmy on the books is a TE. so your point is invalid.

 

As far as the money, you missed the point as well. Hell yes every person i know would love to have that money. But the people I know and associate with are not driven by money and processions. ITS A GAME that he and every player in the NFL gets paid to play. IF he wants to be paid as a WR, he needs to either request the change or wait till his FT is over and leave. Stop crying about the extra money.

 

Simple rules to being happy in this world.

 

Love your family

Work hard for what you want

Money no matter how much will never make you happy

 

The other thing about this game today is the lack of loyalty on both sides. They player only think about Money and the teams only think about dropping the aging player for the new stud. I give the Steelers owners big props, They are the most loyal owners I have ever seen. 4 Coaches since the 70's and they keep players well after their prime.   TD put a smile on my face when talking about "he will only play for the panthers".

 

Love the game but the new wave of players that only think about their pockets is killing it.

 

You know a lot of family and friends that have $5 million on the line right now?  Unless they have that on the line, then your point makes no sense.

 

Money may not buy happiness, but it frees your life up so you can pursue nothing BUT finding happiness, therefore, it kind of DOES buy happiness.

 

So you are saying as long as we list a player as another position, officially, on the program and on trading cards, and yet use him somewhere else, it's OK to pay him for the "listed" position?

 

And do you think the Saints would be OK to changing his description to a WR if he asked a couple years ago?  Sure, we'll hand you extra money.  The team will do what they can to save money, they wouldn't adhere to his request.  Get real.

[Zaximus]

And I love having him as a Saint. But to act like Jimmy isn't put in the best postition to make him succeed is somewhat one sided to me. If he had to play #1 corners every week, like Calvin Johnson, A.J. Green, and Fitz, then he wouldn't be nearly as productive in my opinion. Tight end is the position he plays and succeeds in.

Show me a # 1 receiver that plays predominantly in the slot. Graham will get somewhere between 9-10 million a year and that will be fair.

 

Nothing is stopping opposing teams from putting #1 corners on Jimmy, are they?  They don't because they couldn't handle his strength, that is why TE's like Gronk and Graham are worth so much, fast enough to trouble linebackers and strong enough to give cornerbacks a hard time.

[saints4life25]

It is absolutely a market distorting tool. It severely restricts Graham's ability to secure a long-term deal with more guaranteed money; both of which he would certainly receive if not bound by a team that he is not under contract to play for. The franchise tag gives owners far more leverage than they would have in a truly free market.

So where, exactly, is the power for the team? The NFL would be like the NBA, where the large markets control the entire league. The Panthers and Saints of the league would have little shot at retaining Cam Newton and Jimmy Graham. Players they drafted and developed. There has to be a way to control salaries and let everyone retain their players.

[PanthersAlv]

I think it's hilarious that people are going back and forth on how fair or unfair this ruling was for a player in the NFL. Lol

You'd think most of you were NFL owners and that some of you are NFLPA Reps.

It's over (for now) let it go.

Again, I don't know how this will go, most don't. But, I believe that Graham has until the 15th to sign something, or he's a flat out free agent. Yes?! If that's the case, and he appeals, it surely won't get done by the 15th. So, where does that leave the situation?

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[Zaximus]

So where, exactly, is the power for the team? The NFL would be like the NBA, where the large markets control the entire league. The Panthers and Saints of the league would have little shot at retaining Cam Newton and Jimmy Graham. Players they drafted and developed. There has to be a way to control salaries and let everyone retain their players.

 

Panthers and Saints could offer THEIR drafted players more guaranteed money than the other teams.  That's another thing, NBA is fully guaranteed. 

 

Franchise tag is usually fair and actually lucrative for the player, in this case, it isn't working out like it should.  But it's not guaranteed, so you can keep a player for two years on franchise, they could get hurt, and there it all goes.

[PandaPancake]

Ok you just need to take a a deep breathe and pass out.

 

I make more than that. But once again, ITS A fuging GAME!!!!!! Millions of dollars to play a game that Im sure each and every one of us use to play in the streets growing up.  You could pay me $ 200,000 a year just to ride the damn bench. Practice squad players get more than that.

 

Is Jimmy a great player? Yes most likely the best TE out there. BUT HES A DAMN TE until the roster states other wise. Thats like being a punter and wanting to get paid a a QB because your the best punter in the world.

 

Your value is as much as someone will pay you. It's clear that a team will pay him more. Try not to take it personal, sparky.

[Ricky Spanish]

Again, let my position be known that I WANT Jimmy to be designated a WR so that the saints have to fork over the cash and it screws them over financially for years to come.

[saints4life25]

Nothing is stopping opposing teams from putting #1 corners on Jimmy, are they? They don't because they couldn't handle his strength, that is why TE's like Gronk and Graham are worth so much, fast enough to trouble linebackers and strong enough to give cornerbacks a hard time.

I'm not entirely sure where to go with the argument, as apparently you're one of the few people in the world that feel someone playing football is being underpaid. Most would like their salaries to go down lol. Like I said, Jimmy will get the richest contract ever for a TE. He'll suit up for the Saints and continue to play TE. And he'll do it with a smile.

[Zaximus]

I think it's hilarious that people are going back and forth on how fair or unfair this ruling was for a player in the NFL. Lol

You'd think most of you were NFL owners and that some of you are NFLPA Reps.

It's over (for now) let it go.

Again, I don't know how this will go, most don't. But, I believe that Graham has until the 15th to sign something, or he's a flat out free agent. Yes?! If that's the case, and he appeals, it surely won't get done by the 15th. So, where does that leave the situation?

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It's a message board, are we to just stare at Zod's front page articles? LOL

 

Basically Graham is stuck.  It's a non-exclusive tag.  So he can negotiate with other teams, but the Saints can match, and if another team takes him, they have to give the Saints TWO first-round picks.  So yeah, essentially no team would do that.

[PandaPancake]

I think it's hilarious that people are going back and forth on how this fugs over the Aints

 

 

FTFY

[PanthersAlv]

It's a message board, are we to just stare at Zod's front page articles? LOL.

I have seen more interesting topics dropped for less. Lol

And ok. That's what I thought (roughly) was the situation now.

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[Zaximus]

I'm not entirely sure where to go with the argument, as apparently you're one of the few people in the world that feel someone playing football is being underpaid. Most would like their salaries to go down lol. Like I said, Jimmy will get the richest contract ever for a TE. He'll suit up for the Saints and continue to play TE. And he'll do it with a smile.

 

 

The argument isn't over if athletes are overpaid, and really compared to what the teams are making, they probably aren't as much as you think.  The argument is that because of a loophole, a player is not getting paid for his production on par with other players in the league, regardless of TE or WR.  The argument is, he has no recourse, because of the franchise tag and the fact he's pretty much stuck for two years regardless.  

[saints4life25]

The argument isn't over if athletes are overpaid, and really compared to what the teams are making, they probably aren't as much as you think. The argument is that because of a loophole, a player is not getting paid for his production on par with other players in the league, regardless of TE or WR. The argument is, he has no recourse, because of the franchise tag and the fact he's pretty much stuck for two years regardless.

I'm not considering him to be stuck. I don't think being offered the richest contract in history at your position is being stuck. I think people are reading too much into this as well. Jimmy loves NO. He was a Saints fan before he was drafted. He came from nothing, and while obviously I'm sure he wants to make as much as he can, I think he'll go ahead and sign a deal and move on. Most contrat disputes are cause by agents, not players. He tried to break the mold, it failed, now I expect both sides to continue on.

[Mol3m4n]

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