89 Conference Call

[Mr. Scot]

Wasn't Mighty Mouse a nickname of Sam Mills when he was a Saint?

 

Chris Berman used to call him "The Field Mouse".

 

[top dawg]

If he does it consistently for sixteen games and the playoffs, then it'll be discredited.

 

Whatever.  Everyone should know that the only thing that will stop Smitty from competing consistently is an injury, and injuries can happen to anyone (and are a bit of a red herring when judging someone as tough as Smitty's competitiveness).

 

You and others can fool yourselves all you like if it will make yourselves feel better.  I've seen all that I need to see.

[Mr. Scot]

Whatever.  Everyone should know that the only thing that will stop Smitty from competing consistently is an injury, and injuries can happen to anyone (and are a bit of a red herring when judging someone as tough as Smitty's competitiveness).

 

You and others can fool yourselves all you like if it will make yourselves feel better.  I've seen all that I need to see.

 

Injuries happen a lot more to guys who are 35 years old.

[top dawg]

Bullpoo back to you, the lack of help 89 did or didn't have in say 2005 has nothing to do with why he is a Panther today.

89 is a grumpy diva. That is why the old man version who isn't a big playmaker isn't here. Bc he isn't the ultimate team player.....and that trait is how old WRs stay on rosters instead of being rented guns

 

Look, man, I don't give a poo why Steve Smith is not a Panther today. That's already been discussed.  My opinion is that he still should be a Panther today because he is as tough and competitive a football player as you will ever see, and he still has enough left in the tank where he would have helped our offense this year.  Like 89, that's the bottom line. 

 

We put up with Smitty for 13 years, and we could have put up with it a couple of more.  When he was on the team, people loved him on the field. Now that he's gone, people are talking about him like he is an old, broke down demon.  I don't like it, and I don't buy it.  Simple as that.

 

We can agree to disagree all we want about general preferences of the disposition of personnel, but don't try to piss on me and tell me it's raining about Steve Smith's ability, competitive nature, or the way that he was axed from the team, because I am gonna call "Bullshit!" everytime.  In my opinion, Smitty deserved more than that, and deserves more than that now. And, like I have alluded to in multiple threads that have come up this offseason, I think that it's shameful and not befitting of an intelligent or mature fan base.

[heel31ok]

i'm sure steve smith who angrily maintains that he's still an apex deep threat number one type receiver would have let some wet behind the ears rook take targets away from him.

 

since that is not what he maintains , it cancels out the rest of your point.

 

[heel31ok]

Bullpoo back to you, the lack of help 89 did or didn't have in say 2005 has nothing to do with why he is a Panther today.

89 is a grumpy diva. That is why the old man version who isn't a big playmaker isn't here. Bc he isn't the ultimate team player.....and that trait is how old WRs stay on rosters instead of being rented guns

 

going along to get along is a poor ending for a player who is as intense as SS. He is still making plays because of his intensity . I have no clue why many here would want to have a player that was dumbed down and playing like he is on medication. He is the ultimate team player because he gives everything he has in every game. In this sport that is the ultimate goal and most desirable of traits. He is certainly not an "old man" version of himself yet. 

 

[heel31ok]

Like he did all the other young receivers before Benjamin?

 

I'd add your first sentence isn't proven until he does it consistently for more than just the first three or four weeks.

 

And a GM's job is to win games, not make players happy.

 

removing SS was to make players happy so I do agree with your point about GM's job. Yes SS gave the opportunity for the others to get better he showed them every day what they needed to do. Being given an opportunity and taking an opportunity is up to the other receivers. I think that is the rub as many would want him to hold their hands and walk them through.He won't give them a fish , but...

  

 

[heel31ok]

If he does it consistently for sixteen games and the playoffs, then it'll be discredited.

 

as long as that is applied across the board then you are correct.

 

[Mr. Scot]

removing SS was to make players happy so I do agree with your point about GM's job. Yes SS gave the opportunity for the others to get better he showed them every day what they needed to do. Being given an opportunity and taking an opportunity is up to the other receivers. I think that is the rub as many would want him to hold their hands and walk them through.He won't give them a fish , but...

 

Smith wasn't cut to make players happy.  He was cut to make the team better.

 

Argue all you want about whether it achieves that result or not, but that is the true 'why' of it.

 

[heel31ok]

Injuries happen a lot more to guys who are 35 years old.

 

they happen to everyone and so far we are taking that hit more than he is.

 

[top dawg]

He was cut because he apparently rubbed the GM the wrong way.  G-man went through his antics for a year and decided that his antics weren't worth the trouble.  

[heel31ok]

Smith wasn't cut to make players happy.  He was cut to make the team better.

 

Argue all you want about whether it achieves that result or not, but that is the true 'why' of it.

 

 

no , this has been discussed. He was cut so Cam could take over the team,and because many didn't like his attitude and the "old man version". He was cut to make G-man and other players happy.

 

[heel31ok]

He was cut because he apparently rubbed the GM the wrong way.  G-man went through his antics for a year and decided that his antics weren't worth the trouble.  

 

that's right it was personal not performance based.

[Mr. Scot]

He was cut because he apparently rubbed the GM the wrong way.  G-man went through his antics for a year and decided that his antics weren't worth the trouble.  

 

The idea that Gettleman would make decisions based off personal likes and dislikes is silly.

 

That's the kind of theory that comes from a pissed off fan upset about his favorite player being cut, not someone looking at the situation rationally.