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HC Candidates & their potential schemes

davos

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Yea, Rivera being gone isn't a certainty, but f*ck it, let me have my fun.  If we want to truly use next season to maximize Cam's potential, we should change the staff and get talent around him now that our dead money will drop from ~24 million to ~5 million toward the cap.  You gotta see how he can do under something else, not Rivera and this offensive offensive approach for a 5th year.  No excuses.      

 

I'm sure there's a ton of similar threads...maybe even one made as I wrote this...but before it gets to the point of Mr. Scot doing his awesome spreads on the candidates, let's just assemble the choices overall.  

 

I just want a guy that has those HC intangibles so hopefully DG can identify that type.    

 

Here's the hat (no particular order and tell me who to add):

 

 

In the NFL:

 

Adam Gase -- An even more uptempo than usual E-P offense

(Insert Peyton-OC one-liner; I still think he's a potential HC)

 

Todd Bowles -- Possibly an E-P offense; could do an AC as well  

(The only DC I'd want...he can lead an NFL team, seems to have the HC intangibles)

 

Pep Hamilton -- E-P

(Will no doubt be interviewed this offseason)

 

Kyle Shanahan -- Browns OC -- WCO 

 

Gary Kubiak (Rick Dennison-OC) (A historically successful duo who develops great running games & OLs; a diverse WCO) 

 

Todd Haley -- E-P, Great system; sporadic play-caller...think a lesser man's Arians.  

(Don't hate me for this one, but it wouldn't be terrible haha)

 

Ray Horton (Been mentioned before; now Titans DC) -- Could be an AC or E-P depending on who he'd bring in.  

 

Darrell Bevell -- WCO.  Seattle has an efficient set-up but things have been off this season under Bevell.  

 

Frank Reich -- E-P offense.  It has somewhat spotty as of late.  We'll see how things wind up in SD

(Our first QB! and most unlikely)

 

Tom Clements -- WCO. Green Bay's offense has been unreal this season.  He helped bring freaking Elvis Gerbac and Tommy Maddox to a Pro Bowl) (Probably my favorite overall) 

 

Jim Tomsula (49ers DL Coach, was interviewed for HC spots last year) Most likely a  WCO

 

Dave Toub (ST stud consistently regarded as a potentially good HC) Could really be any scheme. 

 

Bob Sutton -- WCO; could be interesting

(DC from KC)

 

Brad Seely -- WCO. (current AHC & ST for the 49ers, ours under Capers as well)

 

 

 

College ranks, A.K.A "The Unlikely":

 

Gus Malzahn (Sorry, but he's not leaving Auburn IMO)

 

Art Briles (Very Texas, so I dunno if he'd even make the leap)

 

David Shaw (Staying at Stanford)

 

Gary Patterson (TCU)

 

Bob Stoops (A lot of circles have him as a commodity; I wouldn't want him though)

 

 

 

The "Seriously stop mentioning them" guys:

 

Bill Cowher

 

John Gruden

 

 

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Tell me who to add and I'll add them.  Rank a top-5 if you want.  

 

 

 

 

 

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Honestly, not a lot there really gets me excited.  I'd be interested in Malzahan for the obvious Cam connection and because he's known as an innovative offensive mind I guess.  I don't honestly know a lot about him since I don't watch college football, but if he has a good offensive mind and knows how to run a team I'd be down for it.  At least he has HC experience.  I'd much rather get someone with HC experience than promoting some coordinator.  For that reason I wouldn't be opposed to Kubiak either, but I'm not so sure about him.  He didn't exactly set the world on fire in Houston, but he also never really had a QB to work with either.  When Shaub is the best your franchise has had, it's not a good sign.

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Bevell and Clements are both West Coast guys.

 

I'd expect Bowles to favor an E-P system like Arians.  Reich is running an E-P too (which seems like sacrilege in San Diego).

 

I'd add Brad Seely, who'd probably favor a WCO but has seen different systems.  Dave Toub's seen a lot of different systems too.  Hard to know what he'd pick.  If you go by his current job, WCO.

 

 

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Honestly, not a lot there really gets me excited.  I'd be interested in Malzahan for the obvious Cam connection and because he's known as an innovative offensive mind I guess.  I don't honestly know a lot about him since I don't watch college football, but if he has a good offensive mind and knows how to run a team I'd be down for it.  At least he has HC experience.  I'd much rather get someone with HC experience than promoting some coordinator.  For that reason I wouldn't be opposed to Kubiak either, but I'm not so sure about him.  He didn't exactly set the world on fire in Houston, but he also never really had a QB to work with either.  When Shaub is the best your franchise has had, it's not a good sign.

 

With Kubiak/Dennison, it's more about installing a particular system..One with a OL you know will be strong.  In Denver, it was super successful, they got the Texans to 10-6 & 12-4 with it, and are showing they can transition a non-WCO team into one within a season in Baltimore.  The thing is, you would also need a legit DC to help him out...and what worries me would be him as basically an OC-version of Rivera.  

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Bevell and Clements are both West Coast guys.

 

I'd expect Bowles to favor an E-P system like Arians.  Reich is running an E-P too (which seems like sacrilege in San Diego).

 

I'd add Brad Seely, who'd probably favor a WCO but has seen different systems.  Dave Toub's seen a lot of different systems too.  Hard to know what he'd pick.  If you go by his current job, WCO.

 

Thanks for quick hits.  

 

Edited the OP.  

 

I don't think the choices are bad but as mentioned they don't really get me excited.  I just want a guy who knows how to install a system on offense.  We haven't had that in a very long time.  Something Henning was at least somewhat decent at one point...sorta haha.    

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I have said it before here - if we want Newton as our franchise qb we need an offensively minded coach who is capable of innovation and will play to Cam and the rest of our offensive strengths.  If we hire another d coordinator as a head coach we may as well give up on Newton and be content with a winning season every other year at best.

 

Much as he is maligned and a college coach. Rich Rodriquez should be seriously considered.

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Thanks for quick hits.  

 

Edited the OP.  

 

I don't think the choices are bad but as mentioned they don't really get me excited.  I just want a guy who knows how to install a system on offense.  We haven't had that in a very long time.  Something Henning was at least somewhat decent at one point...sorta haha.    

 

I think Haley runs an E-P too.  That's typically been what the Steelers prefer.

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Bevell and Clements are both West Coast guys.

 

I'd expect Bowles to favor an E-P system like Arians.  Reich is running an E-P too (which seems like sacrilege in San Diego).

 

I'd add Brad Seely, who'd probably favor a WCO but has seen different systems.  Dave Toub's seen a lot of different systems too.  Hard to know what he'd pick.  If you go by his current job, WCO.

 

Assuming Sparano ran Coryell in MIA, Bowles was working under Coryell coaches from 05-11. He does have 1 WCO year with Reid as well, but if anything I'd hope the 2 years under Arians wizardry trumps it all.

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Assuming Sparano ran Coryell in MIA, Bowles was working under Coryell coaches from 05-11. He does have 1 WCO year with Reid as well, but if anything I'd hope the 2 years under Arians wizardry trumps it all.

 

Plus he could well try to pull someone from Arians staff, like maybe Tom Moore (though I think Moore's approximately 140 years old right now).

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Might be worth looking at the current head coaching hot seat right now for potential coordinators too.

 

Worth noting that if we hired Todd Bowles, he could potentially bring Brentson Buckner as his DC.

 

Likewise, Pep Hamilton might try to bring Clyde Christensen (if Indy would give permission).

 

 

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