regardless of the outcome of this game, Rivera needs to be fired tomorrow.

[Doc Holiday]

I'm with you Red, too many of our status quo-loving fan base want to give him a pass for last season's haphazard success he wondered into.

i don't think anyone is behind Rivera anymore, if there is anyone it's not enough to matter

[FugginPoo]

Rivera has proved over and over for 4years how stupid a coach he is.

Which goes to show just how good last seasons team was

[Mr. Scot]

I'm not referring to after a 12-4 season, scot, and I dont think you're that naive.

If we want to get really technical, Rivera shouldve been fired before Gettleman ever came on. If we're being completely honest from there, if he wasn't fired before Gettleman, he shouldve been fired by Gettleman once he came on.

Once we kept him and he accidentally went 12-4 because he was coaching as a completely different person due to being scared shitless, then we had every game since out last win to make the same decision.

Point is, considering all that already happened to get us to this season, Rivera shouldve been fired long before this week.

Richardson didn't give Gettleman that option. He said Rivera was staying long before the GM choice was made.

No GM is gonna fire a head coach in that situation.

[tondi]

I would hand Ron a shovel tomorrow and tell him he is going to shovel poo for 12 hours a day for the next 3 years with zero days off and if he doesn't like he he can resign.  We would actually be better off with him shoveling poo than having anything to do with this team.

[beastson]

I'm never in favor of firing head coaches during the season.

Watching this game, you might be able to talk me into it.

Lord almighty we still play the Saints and Falcons in the domes

 

Why?

 

Fired is fired. If anything you should support it. It sends a message to the team and you also get to see if any other position coaches can do better

[Mr. Scot]

Rivera only made the changes and took on his Riverboat persona because his job was literally on the line.

Now we see him right back to his conservative style when the heat is off.

We should have given him one more season to prove that 2013 was not a fluke, simple as that.

That I agree with, but no one could have foreseen that this disaster would happen.

[Proudiddy]

Rivera has proved over and over for 4years how stupid a coach he is.

Which goes to show just how good last seasons team was

Bah! All those guys were easily replaceable! Herp derp! Look at Mitchell in Pittsburgh now hurrr hurrr hurrr! Look at Smitty in his wheelchair in Baltimore because he is an old decrepit asshole! Look at Ginn in Arizona! We'll find another one!

[Montsta]

You aren't going to simply absolve Gettleman of responsibility here are you?

Our entire staff right now is responsible for putting a plate with nothing more than a steaming pile of sh*t in front of fans week in and week out while expecting them to gladly give thanks simply because we have a team. Gettleman is the general manager, yes, he receives blame too.

Gettleman absolutely deserves some blame. I've said it a million times. He gambled last year with some of the pickups he made and it worked, so he deserved some praise. He gambled this year and it didn't work so he deserves blame. I accept that fully.

But people that think every little thing that goes wrong in a game is his fault are not only wrong, they are retarded and should be banned from breeding.

Our team sucks because we have inept coaching and our players are not talented. Now some of that is on the GM of course but we've all known for years the roster problems Gettleman inherited and that it'd take several years to get out from underneath those problems.

[TheRed]

That I agree with, but no one could have foreseen that this disaster would happen.

 

I don't personally buy that Gettleman was essentially forced into retaining Rivera. If that's the case, he shouldn't have taken the job. I think DG is certainly smarter than that. But even with the criticism Rivera is getting, Gettleman did him little favors offensively this offseason.

[Proudiddy]

Richardson didn't give Gettleman that option. He said Rivera was staying long before the GM choice was made.

No GM is gonna fire a head coach in that situation.

I don't recall that...

I could be wrong, but I thought I remembered Gettleman being given the option, or at least it being reported, that he was evaluating the staff.

I could be right that he said they were being evaluated going forward, and I recall some extremely awkward and tense pressers with Rivera and Gettleman afterward.

But, I think we're both right, now that I think back, because I do remember a stink about a new GM being "given" his coaching staff.

Regardless, point remains, there were clear issues with Rivera when he came in, and when those issues reappeared this season, he shouldve gotten the axe immediately.

[TheRed]

Gettleman absolutely deserves some blame. I've said it a million times. He gambled last year with some of the pickups he made and it worked, so he deserved some praise. He gambled this year and it didn't work so he deserves blame. I accept that fully.

But people that think every little thing that goes wrong in a game is his fault are not only wrong, they are retarded and should be banned from breeding.

Our team sucks because we have inept coaching and our players are not talented. Now some of that is on the GM of course but we've all known for years the roster problems Gettleman inherited and that it'd take several years to get out from underneath those problems.

 

I don't really disagree with any of your points here, we seem to be on the same page.

 

I think we can all agree that fans deserve much better than what we have been witnessing the last several weeks. It's shameful.

[Proudiddy]

Gettleman absolutely deserves some blame. I've said it a million times. He gambled last year with some of the pickups he made and it worked, so he deserved some praise. He gambled this year and it didn't work so he deserves blame. I accept that fully.

But people that think every little thing that goes wrong in a game is his fault are not only wrong, they are retarded and should be banned from breeding.

Our team sucks because we have inept coaching and our players are not talented. Now some of that is on the GM of course but we've all known for years the roster problems Gettleman inherited and that it'd take several years to get out from underneath those problems.

Montsta, brother, this thread is about Rivera being a piece of poo whom should be fired.

Gettleman was brought up in the discussion, but I didnt see anyone in this thread blaming him for "each and every" little thing that is going wrong on the field.

As I said earlier in the thread, these are two subpar teams, the difference between the team winning and the team getting their ass stomped is coaching.

[Montsta]

Montsta, brother, this thread is about Rivera being a piece of poo whom should be fired.

Gettleman was brought up in the discussion, but I didnt see anyone in this thread blaming him for "each and every" little thing that is going wrong on the field.

As I said earlier in the thread, these are two subpar teams, the difference between the team winning and the team getting their ass stomped is coaching.

You won't hear any arguments from me. I was one of the last on the fire Rivera bandwagon but if they left him in Minnesota you'd hear nothing from me. I hope he gets dropped tomorrow. He's garbage. My beef is people somehow going up the ladder and saying Gettleman should be fired because Ron shouldn't have been here in the first place. He was given this staff and a no talent roster and salary cap problems. If there is no progress after this purge then sure maybe Gettleman has to go.

[Kevin Greene]

Me thinks BofA will be the usual Black Hole tomorrow.