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What's with the Spiller love? You want to replace one injury prone running back with another? Here's a fun fact. 5 of the top 10 rushers in the NFL this year were drafted in the 3rd or later. DeMarco, Gore, Alfred Morris, Arian Foster, and Justin Forsett. Only one, Marshawn Lynch, was drafted in the first round. I make this point because C.J. was taken 9th overall. Making this Panthers O-Line stronger is much more important than an overrated pickup at RB. Building the line can make almost any RB look good.

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Y'all are forgetting about Tolbert. He's not ideal for a main RB, but he's a great pass blocker and could easily carry the load for a few games or less IF Stew and Foz were to both go down. I stick by my prediction, we'll draft a RB and we won't sign one. I'm sure of it.

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What's with the Spiller love? You want to replace one injury prone running back with another? Here's a fun fact. 5 of the top 10 rushers in the NFL this year were drafted in the 3rd or later. DeMarco, Gore, Alfred Morris, Arian Foster, and Justin Forsett. Only one, Marshawn Lynch, was drafted in the first round. I make this point because C.J. was taken 9th overall. Making this Panthers O-Line stronger is much more important than an overrated pickup at RB. Building the line can make almost any RB look good.

Truth. Oline is everything and should hold priority

My love is over his ST game and his ability to add to the offense more than current available ST aces!

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Y'all are forgetting about Tolbert. He's not ideal for a main RB, but he's a great pass blocker and could easily carry the load for a few games or less IF Stew and Foz were to both go down. I stick by my prediction, we'll draft a RB and we won't sign one. I'm sure of it.

 

I don't feel like Tolbert will replicate his 2013 success again. He looked very bad when he played last year.

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