The reason Cam isn't in a hurry to sign a contract

[jdpanther5]

What QB has ever played a season under the tag? Don't worry I'll wait...

Drew Brees...

[TheRed]

The point of the tag is to give you extra time for both sides to work out a deal. If a guy flat out wants to walk, let him walk. Better yet trade him and get something for him. What QB has ever played a season under the tag? Don't worry I'll wait...

Where have you gotten any indication that Newton does not want to be here?

 

I know you are all in a tizzy over FA, but at least wait until we've had the draft.

 

Gettleman has already said that a deal will get done.

[mountainpantherfan2]

Why do people think Cam needs to have "better" weapons? I think and hope Cam is a franchise QB, who makes ordinary players look better. If he can't do that then IMO he isn't worth a franchise QB level contract.

Signing guys to help field position (Ginn) and improve the line (Oher) is what Cam needs much more than a over paid WR that wasn't coveted enough by his old team to keep around.

How about instead of buying Cam a high priced #2 WR, let Cam show why he's worth the big contract by turning Brown into the next overpaid FA.

[AceBoogie]

Drew Brees...

Signed his deal before the season I believe

[jdpanther5]

Signed his deal before the season I believe

When the Saints tagged him, yes. But earlier in his career he played under the tag in San Diego.

[TheRed]

Why do people think Cam needs to have "better" weapons? I think and hope Cam is a franchise QB, who makes ordinary players look better. If he can't do that then IMO he isn't worth a franchise QB level contract.

Signing guys to help field position (Ginn) and improve the line (Oher) is what Cam needs much more than a over paid WR that wasn't coveted enough by his old team to keep around.

How about instead of buying Cam a high priced #2 WR, let Cam show why he's worth the big contract by turning Brown into the next overpaid FA.

 

Brown was already looking pretty damn good before he had a few injuries.

 

With him having a whole offseason to get into shape and bulk up a bit, he and Ginn should definitely make some noise this coming season. I'm just hoping that Cotchery picks his game up and becomes the reliable target that we signed him to be last year.

 

When you add Fozzy to the mix, that's a good bit of speed to work with. I still hope we draft another WR though.

[AceBoogie]

Where have you gotten any indication that Newton does not want to be here?

I know you are all in a tizzy over FA, but at least wait until we've had the draft.

Gettleman has already said that a deal will get done.

It's been several clues over the last few years that has led me to believe that Cam is at least considering leaving. My name ain't AceBoogie for no reason, I pay a lot of attention to Mr. Newton. If I could play a tape of his press conferences over the years you will notice how his answers have slightly changed when asked about playing here long term. When a player starts throwing around the "it's a business" line you'd better start paying attention.

Cam is human, he's not a panther fan he just plays for the Panthers because we drafted him. Of course he wants to be here, because he's established his brand here. But he also knows that his brand will fade if he doesn't start making some deep playoff runs. The moment Cam feels like he can't win here, he will be gone. He's stated before one of his biggest problems is trusting his teammates to make plays. If he doesn't believe the team in place around him is going to win a Super Bowl he will leave.

Cam sees players like Andrew Luck and talent he's surrounded with. The cap doesn't matter to him because he can sign with a team in a better position to build around him. I think when people here talk about Cam they speak through the mind of a Panthers fan. Cam isn't a panthers fan I cant say that enough. Truth be told, he probably hated us growing up. Entertainer and Icon, he looks up to guys like Lebron James. That's who he wants to be and if he doesn't feel like he can be that with the panthers, then you're going to see him take his talents elsewhere.

[AceBoogie]

When the Saints tagged him, yes. But earlier in his career he played under the tag in San Diego.

Well I guess we all see how that played out

[TheRed]

It's been several clues over the last few years that has led me to believe that Cam is at least considering leaving. My name ain't AceBoogie for no reason, I pay a lot of attention to Mr. Newton. If I could play a tape of his press conferences over the years you will notice how his answers have slightly changed when asked about playing here long term. When a player starts throwing around the "it's a business" line you'd better start paying attention.

Cam is human, he's not a panther fan he just plays for the Panthers because we drafted him. Of course he wants to be here, because he's established his brand here. But he also knows that his brand will fade if he doesn't start making some deep playoff runs. The moment Cam feels like he can't win here, he will be gone. He's stated before one of his biggest problems is trusting his teammates to make plays. If he doesn't believe the team in place around him is going to win a Super Bowl he will leave.

Cam sees players like Andrew Luck and talent he's surrounded with. The cap doesn't matter to him because he can sign with a team in a better position to build around him. I think when people here talk about Cam they speak through the mind of a Panthers fan. Cam isn't a panthers fan I can say that enough. Truth be told, he probably hated us growing up. Entertainer and Icon, he looks up to guys like Lebron James. That's who he wants to be and if he doesn't feel like he can be that with the panthers, then you're going to see him take his talents elsewhere.

 

I think you're reading into things way too much.

[thefuzz]

You don't tag players that want to be free agents

 

Dumbest thing I have ever read.

[AceBoogie]

I think you're reading into things way too much.

Ask Dan Gilbert if he ever thought Lebron was going to leave. If Cam wasn't at least considering leaving, they'd be working hard on a deal right now.

The Panthers made an initial offer of a long-term contract to Newton before last season, although those negotiations did not progress far.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article10900505.html#storylink=cpy

"The goal is for Cam to win in Charlotte,” one person close to Newton said. “If it was only about money and stats, he’d be more critical and animated about what’s happening. Everyone sees what’s on the field. He’s talking about how he has to be better.”

"There have been questions inside and outside the organization about Gettleman’s offseason handling of the offensive line and whether Newton has enough in front of him to be successful."

"Newton’s situation is similar in some respects to what defensive end Julius Peppers faced after the 2009 season. The Panthers were ready to make Peppers one of the highest-paid defensive players in the NFL, but Peppers resisted a long-term deal and the franchise tag in large part because he felt the team wasn’t built for success."

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article9235631.html#storylink=cpy

So yes he wants to be here, but only if he feels like he can win here. Andrew Luck didn't.

[thefuzz]

Ask Dan Gilbert if he ever thought Lebron was going to leave. If Cam wasn't at least considering leaving, they'd be working hard on a deal right now.

The Panthers made an initial offer of a long-term contract to Newton before last season, although those negotiations did not progress far.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article10900505.html#storylink=cpy

"The goal is for Cam to win in Charlotte,” one person close to Newton said. “If it was only about money and stats, he’d be more critical and animated about what’s happening. Everyone sees what’s on the field. He’s talking about how he has to be better.”

"There have been questions inside and outside the organization about Gettleman’s offseason handling of the offensive line and whether Newton has enough in front of him to be successful."

"Newton’s situation is similar in some respects to what defensive end Julius Peppers faced after the 2009 season. The Panthers were ready to make Peppers one of the highest-paid defensive players in the NFL, but Peppers resisted a long-term deal and the franchise tag in large part because he felt the team wasn’t built for success."

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article9235631.html#storylink=cpy

So yes he wants to be here, but only if he feels like he can win here. Andrew Luck didn't.

 

Jeez....

 

As to the bolded part, how do you know they aren't?

 

Also, do you think that this is the best time to get the most money out of the Panthers?  (answer is no)

 

Do you think that Bus Cook know's how to set up a big time payday for a franchise QB?  (answer is yes)

 

 

Cam is staying here, as we have said for years, for at least three more years.  Deal with it.

[ed bell]

Certainly some projection going on here.

[TheRed]

Ask Dan Gilbert if he ever thought Lebron was going to leave. If Cam wasn't at least considering leaving, they'd be working hard on a deal right now.

The Panthers made an initial offer of a long-term contract to Newton before last season, although those negotiations did not progress far.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article10900505.html#storylink=cpy

"The goal is for Cam to win in Charlotte,” one person close to Newton said. “If it was only about money and stats, he’d be more critical and animated about what’s happening. Everyone sees what’s on the field. He’s talking about how he has to be better.”

"There have been questions inside and outside the organization about Gettleman’s offseason handling of the offensive line and whether Newton has enough in front of him to be successful."

"Newton’s situation is similar in some respects to what defensive end Julius Peppers faced after the 2009 season. The Panthers were ready to make Peppers one of the highest-paid defensive players in the NFL, but Peppers resisted a long-term deal and the franchise tag in large part because he felt the team wasn’t built for success."

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article9235631.html#storylink=cpy

So yes he wants to be here, but only if he feels like he can win here. Andrew Luck didn't.

 

Most of that is speculation. Nobody really knows but Gettleman, and Newton.