Realistic prediction: 5-11 this season

[PanthersFanInGA]

I think the Saints and the Falcons are going to battle for the NFS South this year and the Panthers and Bucs will be a non factor. I hate to say that but that's just the feeling I have right now. I watched the Saints and the Falcons games yesterday and they look like they are already in regular season form while we look like we need another 3-4 weeks of training camp to look better and even that's a stretch.

I am a passionate Panther fan and come to this board every day and don't post much but I feel strongly about my predition - enough to post it.

Yes we are missing some key players and hopefully that'll make a big difference but the reality is our Oline is just a couple of injuries short of disaster, our Dline is extremely untalented (except Pep and EB is coming on but they'll just double team Pep anyways) which means our Dbacks will have to work much harder this year and I think you'll be seeing more and more of what happened last night when you have a weak Dline.

On a positive note I think Dwill and Smitty will have big years again and will be good for fantasy stats and I love our three headed monster at running back and we should score some points. It's just that an inevitable injury or two on our Oline will keeps the points low and our defense won't be able to stop anyone good (Brees, Ryan, etc).

What an ignorant idiot that you are. Judging your SEASON record prediction on the performance of PRESEASON meaningless football. Fool!

[bigcuz]

I think the Saints and the Falcons are going to battle for the NFS South this year and the Panthers and Bucs will be a non factor. I hate to say that but that's just the feeling I have right now. I watched the Saints and the Falcons games yesterday and they look like they are already in regular season form while we look like we need another 3-4 weeks of training camp to look better and even that's a stretch.

I am a passionate Panther fan and come to this board every day and don't post much but I feel strongly about my predition - enough to post it.

Yes we are missing some key players and hopefully that'll make a big difference but the reality is our Oline is just a couple of injuries short of disaster, our Dline is extremely untalented (except Pep and EB is coming on but they'll just double team Pep anyways) which means our Dbacks will have to work much harder this year and I think you'll be seeing more and more of what happened last night when you have a weak Dline.

On a positive note I think Dwill and Smitty will have big years again and will be good for fantasy stats and I love our three headed monster at running back and we should score some points. It's just that an inevitable injury or two on our Oline will keeps the points low and our defense won't be able to stop anyone good (Brees, Ryan, etc).

anyone predicting 5-11 should turn in his Panthers badge - he who is without faith shall perish

[CAPantherFan]

What an ignorant idiot that you are. Judging your SEASON record prediction on the performance of PRESEASON meaningless football. Fool!

Actually my opinion is not based on the preseason we've had so far. It's based on the fact that we are an injury or two away from complete disaster on the Oline, are incredibly weak and thin on the Dline (Pep doesn't care and EB is still new albeit looking good cause he does care), Jake is very medoicre, and our schedule is the toughest in the league. That and the fact that Fox's teams can have a run of wins and a run of loses. We may very well start 0-3 IMO.

Trust me I've got the NFL package and am amp'd for this season and watch my Panthers but this is just how I sense this season is going to go - and I hope I'm way wrong!!

[MadHatter]

Actually my opinion is not based on the preseason we've had so far. It's based on the fact that we are an injury or two away from complete disaster on the Oline, are incredibly weak and thin on the Dline (Pep doesn't care and EB is still new albeit looking good cause he does care), Jake is very medoicre, and our schedule is the toughest in the league. That and the fact that Fox's teams can have a run of wins and a run of loses. We may very well start 0-3 IMO.

Trust me I've got the NFL package and am amp'd for this season and watch my Panthers but this is just how I sense this season is going to go - and I hope I'm way wrong!!

Every team is in the same situation.

[rayzor]

Every team is in the same situation.

pretty much.

NFCS:

falcons....lose ryan their season is shot. turner going to carry them to a winning season? pleasssse.

saints.....lose brees their season is shot. who are they going to rely on? harrington? right. give me mccown any day over him.

bucs.....their season is shot anyway.

panthers...lose jake, it isn't as bad as some other teams. lose one of the RBs, we're cool. lose smith, we got moose and moore. lose beason, we got connor. the backups aren't as good as the people in front of them but are they ever? no, that's why they are backups and not starters. still, the team is deep. the team is in better shape than when jake went down in '07 and we were only one game away from breaking even.

let's look at some other teams and see who is going to hurt if they lose one or two players, shall we?

NFCN:

bears...lose cutler they can say goodbye to playoffs. seriously. if they lose forte they will still have kevin jones who is actually healthy. cutler was the missing ingredient.

lions...their season isn't going to be much one way or the other.

packers...lose rodgers and their season is lost. they rely on the QB too much for their success. shift from a 4-3 to a 3-4 is going to make them need rodgers even more.

vikings...lose peterson and the williams wall their season is lost. lose favre...find out week 10. deep team. one of the few that could actually lose a couple major components and still be competitive though losing ADP would really hurt.

NFCE:

giants...lose eli and they have carr (we know how that works). eli = jake with a ring (aka, more luck) and a bigger contract.

cowboys...lose romo and they will struggle (but wouldn't make it to the playoffs and win in any situation)

eagles...already lost a lot on defense. lose mcnabb and they are sunk, esp. in the first few weeks. they are already looking at a long year, though.

redskins....don't have much going for them anyway. losing portis would just make it worse.

NFCW:

cardinals...lose warner and they have a horribly overrated draft pick. yes, great WRs but warner is what put that team over the top. he's not sure to make it the rest of the season anyway, hip problems.

49ers...in rebuild mode anyway. except for gore and willis there isn't much to go with. lose either one of them and you get a top 5 pick...again.

seahawks...lose, ummmm...who do they have? lose housh and/or hass and you have the same team as last year. yeah.

rams...lose sjax and you have what they have any other year they lose sjax. just a matter of whether it will be first pick in the draft or 2nd.

AFCS:

texans: lose schaub (like they do every year) and no chance at the playoffs

colts: lose manning and they are sunk

jaguars...lose mjd and what else do they have?

titans...what happens if they lose collins? VY is a shell. defense lost it's thing that made them a serious threat last year. lose mr. 4.24 chris johnson and they lose their spark. they aren't going to be able to rely on the one dimensional white. for that matter, you lose white and you fall into the same boat. they have no complete package RB. panthers have a couple.

AFCN:

ravens...lose flacco and their offense disappears. lose ray lewis and their defense falls apart. losing either one of these drops them out. if they don't have that balance they fall.

bengals...lose palmer and they have no hope.

browns...crap all the way around.

steelers...lose ben and they have lost their motor. last year it wasn't ben's skill that won them games. it was the defense and ben's "fire" and pushing them to squeak out wins. sound familiar at all? on defense...maybe polamalu but they are pretty deep there.

AFCE:

pats...lose brady and they will still win but not as much as last year. lightning won't strike twice. last year was luck.

bills...gonna suck anyway. Oline is horrible. defense is bad. plus they have TO. gas on fire.

dolphins...lose penny or ronnie brown and they go down in a big way.

jets....not sure they have much in the first place. leon washington is going to be their major spark on offense that they rely on. bart scott i would say is probably the most important part of the defense. they lose him and they lose the thing that will help them stay competitive.

AFCW:

broncos....lose shanny or cutler and you have a losing team. worse case scenario, bring in some punk kid as the coach who has an intellectual napoleon complex and who gets into ego clashes with other immature players on the team. oh, and then switch your already bad 4-3 defense into a 3-4 and you are talking about one screwed season.

chiefs...gonna be bad anyway. suckers thought they could pick up a QB that was only good in a system and think they can win. shifting to a 3-4 is going to make that defense really bad this year.

raiders...meh. can it get worse?

chargers....lose rivers and/or LT2 and what do they have? little chance. oh, and if you think sproles can help them if LT2 goes down? he's three foot tall and weighs 40 pounds. he's quick but he'll get squashed. purely situational guy.

[Wither]

If the NFL has ever taught me anything, it's that you can't predict how the season will go. It's always a surprise.

Come on; there are so many variables in an actual game that the outcome is often one play away from changing.

[CAPantherFan]

pretty much.

NFCS:

falcons....lose ryan their season is shot. turner going to carry them to a winning season? pleasssse.

saints.....lose brees their season is shot. who are they going to rely on? harrington? right. give me mccown any day over him.

bucs.....their season is shot anyway.

panthers...lose jake, it isn't as bad as some other teams. lose one of the RBs, we're cool. lose smith, we got moose and moore. lose beason, we got connor. the backups aren't as good as the people in front of them but are they ever? no, that's why they are backups and not starters. still, the team is deep. the team is in better shape than when jake went down in '07 and we were only one game away from breaking even.

let's look at some other teams and see who is going to hurt if they lose one or two players, shall we?

NFCN:

bears...lose cutler they can say goodbye to playoffs. seriously. if they lose forte they will still have kevin jones who is actually healthy. cutler was the missing ingredient.

lions...their season isn't going to be much one way or the other.

packers...lose rodgers and their season is lost. they rely on the QB too much for their success. shift from a 4-3 to a 3-4 is going to make them need rodgers even more.

vikings...lose peterson and the williams wall their season is lost. lose favre...find out week 10. deep team. one of the few that could actually lose a couple major components and still be competitive though losing ADP would really hurt.

NFCE:

giants...lose eli and they have carr (we know how that works). eli = jake with a ring (aka, more luck) and a bigger contract.

cowboys...lose romo and they will struggle (but wouldn't make it to the playoffs and win in any situation)

eagles...already lost a lot on defense. lose mcnabb and they are sunk, esp. in the first few weeks. they are already looking at a long year, though.

redskins....don't have much going for them anyway. losing portis would just make it worse.

NFCW:

cardinals...lose warner and they have a horribly overrated draft pick. yes, great WRs but warner is what put that team over the top. he's not sure to make it the rest of the season anyway, hip problems.

49ers...in rebuild mode anyway. except for gore and willis there isn't much to go with. lose either one of them and you get a top 5 pick...again.

seahawks...lose, ummmm...who do they have? lose housh and/or hass and you have the same team as last year. yeah.

rams...lose sjax and you have what they have any other year they lose sjax. just a matter of whether it will be first pick in the draft or 2nd.

AFCS:

texans: lose schaub (like they do every year) and no chance at the playoffs

colts: lose manning and they are sunk

jaguars...lose mjd and what else do they have?

titans...what happens if they lose collins? VY is a shell. defense lost it's thing that made them a serious threat last year. lose mr. 4.24 chris johnson and they lose their spark. they aren't going to be able to rely on the one dimensional white. for that matter, you lose white and you fall into the same boat. they have no complete package RB. panthers have a couple.

AFCN:

ravens...lose flacco and their offense disappears. lose ray lewis and their defense falls apart. losing either one of these drops them out. if they don't have that balance they fall.

bengals...lose palmer and they have no hope.

browns...crap all the way around.

steelers...lose ben and they have lost their motor. last year it wasn't ben's skill that won them games. it was the defense and ben's "fire" and pushing them to squeak out wins. sound familiar at all? on defense...maybe polamalu but they are pretty deep there.

AFCE:

pats...lose brady and they will still win but not as much as last year. lightning won't strike twice. last year was luck.

bills...gonna suck anyway. Oline is horrible. defense is bad. plus they have TO. gas on fire.

dolphins...lose penny or ronnie brown and they go down in a big way.

jets....not sure they have much in the first place. leon washington is going to be their major spark on offense that they rely on. bart scott i would say is probably the most important part of the defense. they lose him and they lose the thing that will help them stay competitive.

AFCW:

broncos....lose shanny or cutler and you have a losing team. worse case scenario, bring in some punk kid as the coach who has an intellectual napoleon complex and who gets into ego clashes with other immature players on the team. oh, and then switch your already bad 4-3 defense into a 3-4 and you are talking about one screwed season.

chiefs...gonna be bad anyway. suckers thought they could pick up a QB that was only good in a system and think they can win. shifting to a 3-4 is going to make that defense really bad this year.

raiders...meh. can it get worse?

chargers....lose rivers and/or LT2 and what do they have? little chance. oh, and if you think sproles can help them if LT2 goes down? he's three foot tall and weighs 40 pounds. he's quick but he'll get squashed. purely situational guy.

While I can appreciate the time you took to respond, anytime you lose your starting QB you're in a world of hurt. If we can fix this defense we will win some games so let's hope we can shore up interior DLine and pray to the injury gods that we have a healthy year!

[Udogg]

The NFC South is gonna be a who can score more division this year. No ones defense is gonna stand out I think. That being said, whoever can win the turnover ration battle will win.

[rayzor]

While I can appreciate the time you took to respond, anytime you lose your starting QB you're in a world of hurt. If we can fix this defense we will win some games so let's hope we can shore up interior DLine and pray to the injury gods that we have a healthy year!

you talk as if the panthers are in more danger of having the wheels fall off than most others. that simply isn't true.

all teams are in the same shape.

for those that get hurt losing their QB that i listed, they are in even worse shape because they have nothing else. that was my point. they don't have enough that can carry them through.

with the panthers that just isn't the case. the team is deep in enough positions that it can withstand more injuries than others.

you would have to loose quite a few players for it to all fall apart...but how is that any different than any other team? it isn't.

i just don't see how your 5-11 prediction can be considered realistic. that is the only thing in this thread that deserves the .

[weyco2000]

10-6 and i'm sticking with it! The Lions were unbeaten in preseason last year and I think the Colts have won 1 preseason game in 3 years. Its impossible to predict the season on preseason play(havent we learned that by now?) I thought the Offense looked better with Smitty (keep in mind they didnt have D'lo or Stewart) and we seen the same old bend but dont break defense(giving up lots of yards but only 17 points) Let's wait at least the first quarter of the season before hating on anyone. Be positive, no doom or gloom!

[Gman was right]

pretty much.

NFCS:

falcons....lose ryan their season is shot. turner going to carry them to a winning season? pleasssse.

saints.....lose brees their season is shot. who are they going to rely on? harrington? right. give me mccown any day over him.

bucs.....their season is shot anyway.

panthers...lose jake, it isn't as bad as some other teams. lose one of the RBs, we're cool. lose smith, we got moose and moore. lose beason, we got connor. the backups aren't as good as the people in front of them but are they ever? no, that's why they are backups and not starters. still, the team is deep. the team is in better shape than when jake went down in '07 and we were only one game away from breaking even.

let's look at some other teams and see who is going to hurt if they lose one or two players, shall we?

NFCN:

bears...lose cutler they can say goodbye to playoffs. seriously. if they lose forte they will still have kevin jones who is actually healthy. cutler was the missing ingredient.

lions...their season isn't going to be much one way or the other.

packers...lose rodgers and their season is lost. they rely on the QB too much for their success. shift from a 4-3 to a 3-4 is going to make them need rodgers even more.

vikings...lose peterson and the williams wall their season is lost. lose favre...find out week 10. deep team. one of the few that could actually lose a couple major components and still be competitive though losing ADP would really hurt.

NFCE:

giants...lose eli and they have carr (we know how that works). eli = jake with a ring (aka, more luck) and a bigger contract.

cowboys...lose romo and they will struggle (but wouldn't make it to the playoffs and win in any situation)

eagles...already lost a lot on defense. lose mcnabb and they are sunk, esp. in the first few weeks. they are already looking at a long year, though.

redskins....don't have much going for them anyway. losing portis would just make it worse.

NFCW:

cardinals...lose warner and they have a horribly overrated draft pick. yes, great WRs but warner is what put that team over the top. he's not sure to make it the rest of the season anyway, hip problems.

49ers...in rebuild mode anyway. except for gore and willis there isn't much to go with. lose either one of them and you get a top 5 pick...again.

seahawks...lose, ummmm...who do they have? lose housh and/or hass and you have the same team as last year. yeah.

rams...lose sjax and you have what they have any other year they lose sjax. just a matter of whether it will be first pick in the draft or 2nd.

AFCS:

texans: lose schaub (like they do every year) and no chance at the playoffs

colts: lose manning and they are sunk

jaguars...lose mjd and what else do they have?

titans...what happens if they lose collins? VY is a shell. defense lost it's thing that made them a serious threat last year. lose mr. 4.24 chris johnson and they lose their spark. they aren't going to be able to rely on the one dimensional white. for that matter, you lose white and you fall into the same boat. they have no complete package RB. panthers have a couple.

AFCN:

ravens...lose flacco and their offense disappears. lose ray lewis and their defense falls apart. losing either one of these drops them out. if they don't have that balance they fall.

bengals...lose palmer and they have no hope.

browns...crap all the way around.

steelers...lose ben and they have lost their motor. last year it wasn't ben's skill that won them games. it was the defense and ben's "fire" and pushing them to squeak out wins. sound familiar at all? on defense...maybe polamalu but they are pretty deep there.

AFCE:

pats...lose brady and they will still win but not as much as last year. lightning won't strike twice. last year was luck.

bills...gonna suck anyway. Oline is horrible. defense is bad. plus they have TO. gas on fire.

dolphins...lose penny or ronnie brown and they go down in a big way.

jets....not sure they have much in the first place. leon washington is going to be their major spark on offense that they rely on. bart scott i would say is probably the most important part of the defense. they lose him and they lose the thing that will help them stay competitive.

AFCW:

broncos....lose shanny or cutler and you have a losing team. worse case scenario, bring in some punk kid as the coach who has an intellectual napoleon complex and who gets into ego clashes with other immature players on the team. oh, and then switch your already bad 4-3 defense into a 3-4 and you are talking about one screwed season.

chiefs...gonna be bad anyway. suckers thought they could pick up a QB that was only good in a system and think they can win. shifting to a 3-4 is going to make that defense really bad this year.

raiders...meh. can it get worse?

chargers....lose rivers and/or LT2 and what do they have? little chance. oh, and if you think sproles can help them if LT2 goes down? he's three foot tall and weighs 40 pounds. he's quick but he'll get squashed. purely situational guy.

:Yawn::Yawn::Yawn:

You have WAY too much time on your hands.

[PuntJake]

i predict the panthers will finish the regular season either....

0-16

1-15

2-14

3-13

4-12

5-11

6-10

7-9

8-8

9-7

10-6

11-5

12-4

13-3

14-2

15-1

or

16-0

don't flame me. i know i'm right.

[waya]

I remember a few years back now when we had a perfict preseason,,,,, I said then it was because our 2nd/3rd string was as good as most teams 1st string,,,,, Guess what we went to the superbowl that year,,, the next preseason was perfict too,,,, but it has not been the same since then,,,,, man this club has the talent, just not the depth and it's a shame

[weyco2000]

I cant believe since I posted on this thread, I have been to work for 8 hours, came home and ate, had a couple drinks and petted the dog(eat your heart out Vick) and we are still talking preseason records? Please put it too rest!