Mr. Richardson did flex muscles regarding Hardy

[NJPanthers12]

What your opinion is, is not fact.

Stop acting like it is and maybe that'll help.

 

wait did you just ignore all the prior stuff about jerry richardson? of course you did because you are unable to acknowledge anything negative said about him.

 

like i said, and i will say it twice for you so you can understand, i know what i know and i will continue to believe what i believe. it feels like 25,000 of your 46,000 posts are you telling me i made stuff up. its not going to change what i know or believe. 

[pantherclaw]

I loved Hardy, since he was drafted.

It was absolutely fun to watch him develop and become the player he had become.

Nobody wanted him retained more than me.

This isn't about his talent, or how well liked the guy is.

This is about Mr Richardson saying no to not just the negatively that came from Hardy's domestic dispute, but how Hardy has carried himself off the field since he has been a Panther.

You can't compare that to Steve Smith's on field/practice issues. They aren't even in the same universe. So sad, that so many, simply don't get that.

I get It.

Yes, it sucks to had watched Hardy since he was drafted, develop as a Panther, only to see Hardy squander The opportunity to the point, where the owner had to step in and say, "no more."

I hate it, but it's not Richardson's fault that Hardy carried himself the way he did, off the field.

[Mr. Scot]

wait did you just ignore all the prior stuff about jerry richardson? of course you did because you are unable to acknowledge anything negative said about him.

like i said, and i will say it twice for you so you can understand, i know what i know and i will continue to believe what i believe. it feels like 25,000 of your 46,000 posts are you telling me i made stuff up. its not going to change what i know or believe.

Your mistake is thinking I care what you believe.

I care what Voth believes. I care what Igo believes. Heck, I even care what Person and Jones believe because those guys are all legit. And I care what numerous posters on here who have shown themselves to be knowledgeable and reasonable believe.

You, I only talk to to point out how off the mark your posts are, such as your supposed proof that Richardson threatened to move the team.

Thus, I don't care if you change because I already know what you say can't be trusted or taken seriously.

[NJPanthers12]

Your mistake is thinking I care what you believe.

I care what Voth believes. I care what Igo believes. Heck, I even care what Person and Jones believe because those guys are all legit.

You, I only talk to to point out how off the mark your posts are, such as your supposed proof that Richardson threatened to move the team.

Thus, I don't care if you change because I already know what you say can't be trusted or taken seriously.

 

you do care. it clearly bothers you. because every post i make i can guarantee you Mr. Scott is right around the corner to ignore every point brought up in the post but will immediately bring up my sources. like clock work every single time. it is funny to me to see how much it bothers you. i enjoy these conversations we have. 

[pantherclaw]

What points, your hypothetical bullcrap?

Yeah, excellent points.

[Mr. Scot]

you do care. it clearly bothers you. because every post i make i can guarantee you Mr. Scott is right around the corner to ignore every point brought up in the post but will immediately bring up my sources. like clock work every single time. it is funny to me to see how much it bothers you. i enjoy these conversations we have.

You give yourself way too much credit.

Once in a while, I feel the urge to point out silliness and stupidity. You just happen to be a frequent poster of that sort of material.

And again, if you hadn't gone to the trouble to build yourself up as a phony insider, that issue wouldn't be here to discuss, would it?

[NJPanthers12]

You give yourself way too much credit.

Once in a while, I feel the urge to point out silliness and stupidity. You just happen to be a frequent poster of that sort of material.

And again, if you hadn't gone to the trouble to build yourself up as a phony insider, that issue wouldn't be here to discuss, would it?

 

ah ok got it. you are just point out my silliness and stupidity. well you keep on doing it and keeping me in check while i continue to be "silly" and "stupid". like i said i enjoy these conversations and we can both pretend like you don't care. 

[NJPanthers12]

What points, your hypothetical bullcrap?

Yeah, excellent points.

 

very refreshing to finally have someone who wants to talk about the subject at hand. please elaborate on which of my points about Jerry Richardson are hypothetical.

[Semaj]

Steve Smith was cut last year.

You think Jerry Richardson initiated that?

As to Hardy, if you've watched the things they've said and read Bill Voth, it's been said many a time that we weren't keeping Hardy anyway. Rivera might have wanted to keep him, but there's no indication Gettleman did.

Anyone taking this story to mean that Richardson is suddenly 'hands on' again is probably somebody who just wants to believe that anyway.

I have never stopped believing that. Ultimately I just want the Panthers to win. I believe keeping Hardy if it was possible financially was a step towards that. I am disappointed that JR made the decision that he did.

[Frizzy350]

Richardson may or may not had strong input regarding Hardy, but I don't think it was relevant.

 

Even if Nicole Holder and this entire situation never happened, I don't think we were keeping him.  I don't think he fit into Gman's long term roster plan of financial distribution.

 

This is almost like a teenage girl breaking up with her boyfriend on her own, then afterwards her father forbids her from ever seeing him again.

 

Honestly I think this is a good image for Richardson and the Panthers to attempt to take.  Save face, run with it and pretend to be the good guys despite getting royally screwed by the NFL (which we did, that $13 mil could have done alot for our roster last year).

 

I'm sick of being treated as a second class team with the national media knowing absolutely nothing about us.  I'm sick of people asking me what city/state my favorite team plays in.

[Mr. Scot]

ah ok got it. you are just point out my silliness and stupidity. well you keep on doing it and keeping me in check while i continue to be "silly" and "stupid". like i said i enjoy these conversations and we can both pretend like you don't care.

If that makes you feel better...

[Mr. Scot]

I have never stopped believing that. Ultimately I just want the Panthers to win. I believe keeping Hardy if it was possible financially was a step towards that. I am disappointed that JR made the decision that he did.

Keeping Hardy was never really financially possible. I knew that the day I heard he'd turned down an offer for 8 million a year.

But beyond that, you have to keep in mind that the climate in the NFL took a hard left turn with the Ray Rice story, and frankly the league is still reeling from it. Anybody with a domestic violence rap against them is gonna find it tough sledding.

Heck, Hardy's off field shenanigans scared the Seahawks (a team whose brain trust obviously knows how to win the big games) and the Raiders (a team with loads of money to send) out of pursuing him. And the team that did is taking a load of bad press right now.

This is how it's gonna be in the post Ray Rice NFL.

And let's be real. Regardless of how you feel about his guilt or innocence, Hardy is a guy who's shown plenty of bad judgement in his history. It was pretty clear to anyone who heard Gettleman say "who needs a time bomb" that he had Hardy in mind as one of those. So it wasn't gonna happen anyway.

Heck, I loved Hardy's on-field 'Kraken' persona as much as anyone, but it just wasn't meant to be.

And no, losing him will not cripple or doom this team as some have suggested. Defense is still a team effort.

Yes, what he could do on the field might be difficult to replace...

...but it's not impossible.

[rodeo]

I can't be the only one who would KILL to see Jerry Richardson flexing his muscles. hnnnnng

[Brothergrim427]

points for knowing this game !