Fox needs to go!!! Read On

[chknwing]

Fox isn't a bad coach, he just has far too much loyalty to players. He will stick with a player forever until forced to make a change. He has to learn to yank a player when they are not performing aka Jake Delhomme.

[frash.exe]

Fox won't get fired in 2009 because of 2008.

the only way his seat will get hot is if he fields a 4-12 campaign or worse, and it's still very likely he stays even then.

[Jangler]

Just want to see more passion, fire and blitzing.

[cheynehowell]

He's not a bad coach. I just think he will never be great

[holderoftruth]

Fox isn't a bad coach, he just has far too much loyalty to players. He will stick with a player forever until forced to make a change. He has to learn to yank a player when they are not performing aka Jake Delhomme.

rodney peete......

Lets face it, Jake Delhomme made Fox's career with the Panthers

[cheynehowell]

I actually think Delhomme deserves his shot this season to prove everybody wrong, but boy did I need that off season to get over what he did.

[CRA]

I hear ya, but how much adjusting can you do with what you have? Seriously what are the options or your suggestions. Just keep in mind bring in any new player is not his doing.

What does he do? blitz more, we did that oddly enough against ravens and got torched. What else, thats a serious question BTW.

You can do lots of adjusting....but that should have been done after the season once they decided to bring this same defensive unit back. Talent is here to do a lot.....just not what Foxy is wanting to do.

He simply needs to be aggressive...which is something he is not. The talent is not here to run what he asked Trgo do to last year and what he is projected and they have talked about Meeks running. You know that one season (can't remember the year) that the season went down the shitter and in the 2nd half of the season Fox took some acid and told the DC to bring the pain in the second half (might of been SF).....they cameback and won that game and almost made a run at the playoffs. I don't mind Fox playing conservative on defense when he has the talent to do it.........he can't run his conservative stuff and find defensive success w/ this group......we saw it last year. He has the offense to take some gambles on defense and hope to make some plays on defense.....instead he will opt to play conservative and teams will pick the defense apart like last year.....and I doubt the offense can continue what they did the entire 2nd half of last year.

[CRA]

I actually think Delhomme deserves his shot this season to prove everybody wrong, but boy did I need that off season to get over what he did.

what, prove everybody wrong after comng back from Tommy John (1st QB ever to do it successfully), win a division title, and finish w/ a 12-4 record which is the best in Carolina history?

Yes, Jake was horrible in the playoffs......but again, Jake gets all the blame when Fox clearly deserved MUCH more than he gets for what occured on both sides of the ball.......and practically admitted he saw no need to gameplan for that speciefic team on defense and the status quo wasn't going to change.

[electric_blue_it]

Henning is the OC for the Dolphins who lets face it has half the talent of us on the O side. Yet he took them to a conference Championship with basically nothing.

Didn't Baltimore and Pitt play for the conference championship? Didn't Miami get shut down completely on Wild Card weekend?

[X-Clown]

Didn't Baltimore and Pitt play for the conference championship? Didn't Miami get shut down completely on Wild Card weekend?

Yes and yes. They lost at home. Their quarterback (who everyone says is an upgrade over Jake) threw 4 INTs.

[Fireball77]

Didn't Miami get shut down completely on Wild Card weekend?

So what you're saying is that their team had a one and done also and their QB turned the ball over 4 times in his playoff game and they aren't getting any prolonged media hate for any of it?

Yeah...gotta love media hypocrisy!

I know the Fins were coming from a place of low expectations going into 2008 but for cripes sakes, the Panthers had their fair share of turmoil prior to kickoff in 2008 and certainly weren't coming off anything but a bad year themselves. No one was picking either of them to win their respective divisions.

[beastson]

I actually think Delhomme deserves his shot this season to prove everybody wrong, but boy did I need that off season to get over what he did.

what, prove everybody wrong after comng back from Tommy John (1st QB ever to do it successfully), win a division title, and finish w/ a 12-4 record which is the best in Carolina history?

Yes, Jake was horrible in the playoffs......but again, Jake gets all the blame when Fox clearly deserved MUCH more than he gets for what occured on both sides of the ball.......and practically admitted he saw no need to gameplan for that speciefic team on defense and the status quo wasn't going to change.

rep and rep

[goncrazi]

blah blah blah

Fox needs to go??? Srsly?

Then I would recommend the bathrooms on the club level. I sat in 312 the other night and I must say, the johns in that section are really plush. Very clean, and I wouldn't be surprised if they used name-brand toilet paper.

Hope he doesn't hold it too long. That could cause some serious gastro-intestinal problems!:eek:

[SKULL]

With all the Pre-Season hate

I can't wait to see how stopped up the board gets if Panthers lose a game or two ..

There will be alot of I TOLD YOU SO threads

Seriously might ought to consider creating that seperate Forum now