Patriots accused of cheating (redux)

[Snake]

The owner and coach should be banned for life. But this will never happen, obviously. It's just one thing after another after another. They're cheaters

What do you expect when they just get slapped on the wrist every time. If cheating cost multiple 1st round picks, high fines and suspensions then it would stop. Yet players like Hardy who may be crazy but only have been in trouble once get 10 games and players like Brady who have cheated multiple times only get 4 games.

Hell TD has been fined more for hitting people in the NFL than Brady and the Patriots have been for cheating.

[L-TownCat]

But it was too harsh guys I mean come on it's just a football. Don't be so fuggin gay.

[PandaPancake]

If you win you win. No one gets stripped of titles. Seven time Tour de France winner Lance Armstrong told me that

[pantherphan96]

I'm content at this point knowing we were the better team in 2003 and would have won if they played fairly. That makes the 2005 and 2013 revenge wins so much sweeter.

 

i would be content with a super bowl trophy from 03. i dont believe in "moral" victories

[Keith Moons Liver]

Hard to really have much faith in any of their victories in the belichek era. I don't think you can rate Brady as one of the greats anymore. I have just as many honest NFL wins as he does. 

[TN05]

i would be content with a super bowl trophy from 03. i dont believe in "moral" victories

 

It's not a moral victory. I think we actually won and were robbed. But we won.

[pantherphan96]

It's not a moral victory. I think we actually won and were robbed. But we won.

 

no trophy and not in the record book. its not real unless everyone else is forced to concede that we won.

[Darth Biscuit]

I hate the fuging Patriots with a passion. They are cheaters, period.

Having said that, the NFL enabled this by not centralizing the game functions like balls, radios, field prep, everything related to the game.

[PandaPancake]

When asked if he was a cheater the hesitation and nervous laugh speaks volumes. While not professional I would have flipped the podium at being asked such a question but i didn't cheat to six Super Bowls

[updownsigma]

Is he, though?

Deflated footballs for better ball security (by a ridiculous margin)...

Interference with other teams' communications at crucial points in the game...

Videotaping practices, signals, etc.

...all that plus playing in one of the league's worst divisions all this time.

If they've been doing those things - and probably others we don't know about - for all these years, are they really that good, or just good at cheating?

The fact that they play in a consistently awful division helps them more than anything else IMO.

[AceBoogie]

Is he, though?

Deflated footballs for better ball security (by a ridiculous margin)...

Interference with other teams' communications at crucial points in the game...

Videotaping practices, signals, etc.

...all that plus playing in one of the league's worst divisions all this time.

If they've been doing those things - and probably others we don't know about - for all these years, are they really that good, or just good at cheating?

If they were really that good at cheating they wouldn't keep getting caught.

[KJ89]

If they were really that good at cheating they wouldn't keep getting caught.

they get caught after the win and don't really get punished so that doesn't matter.

[AceBoogie]

they get caught after the win and don't really get punished so that doesn't matter.

I'm just saying I seriously doubt the Patriots are the only team pushing the rules, they get caught because they're good at winning. When you're that good for that long people pay attention more. You think the Colts would have gave a damn if the Jags were deflating balls?

[KJ89]

I'm just saying I seriously doubt the Patriots are the only team pushing the rules, they get caught because they're good at winning. When you're that good for that long people pay attention more. You think the Colts would have gave a damn if the Jags were deflating balls?

they would if they were playing the Jags in the AFC Championship and lost