IF... we would have simply 'Cut' peppers.

[chknwing]

umm, it's a business guys, get over it. Peppers is not responsible for anything but himself. Carolina should have locked him up a year ago with a long term contract. Most of you guys in here talk about how bad the panthers are and voice your disgust for fox and hurney and jump ship every chance you get but if a player wants to jump ship possibly due to some of the same reasons, he is an evil person. Point being, its a business, peppers made the best business decision he could. Fox and Hurney thought Peppers was worth the $17 million so they kept him. Blame them for the lack of quality on the depth chart, not peppers.

[frash.exe]

if we would've cut peppers we'd have a nice festive flavorful ingredient for our italian hot dogs

[pantherfan49]

I wish they would have removed the tag from him after the money dried up in FA and before he signed his tender.

[rko396]

We would have a veteren replacement for him at DE, a veteren at DT, Brian Dawkins at FS allowing Godfrey 2 or 3 years to acclimate better to the position, a beast of a up and coming rookie replacement for him at DE in Everette Brown, and a punt returner....

I think that sounds like a more complete #1 Beason- #2 Dawkins - #3 Chris Harris defensive team than a #1 Julius Peppers -#2 Beason - #3 Chris Harris defensive team.

Can you imagine having had Dawkins co-leading our defense and coming out on gamedays for the next 2 or 3 seasons?

EDIT: Not even nessasarily Dawkins, and also i should have said "not re-signed" in the title instead of "cut"

child please

[King Taharqa]

umm, it's a business guys, get over it. Peppers is not responsible for anything but himself. Carolina should have locked him up a year ago with a long term contract. Most of you guys in here talk about how bad the panthers are and voice your disgust for fox and hurney and jump ship every chance you get but if a player wants to jump ship possibly due to some of the same reasons, he is an evil person. Point being, its a business, peppers made the best business decision he could. Fox and Hurney thought Peppers was worth the $17 million so they kept him. Blame them for the lack of quality on the depth chart, not peppers.

Good post. I'd also add we overpaid for Jordan Gross this offseason, yet no one EVER brings that up. Peppers & Gross didnt put a gun to the organizations head and make them give them the money, they did it on their own accord.

[ed bell]

umm, it's a business guys, get over it. Peppers is not responsible for anything but himself. Carolina should have locked him up a year ago with a long term contract. Most of you guys in here talk about how bad the panthers are and voice your disgust for fox and hurney and jump ship every chance you get but if a player wants to jump ship possibly due to some of the same reasons, he is an evil person. Point being, its a business, peppers made the best business decision he could. Fox and Hurney thought Peppers was worth the $17 million so they kept him. Blame them for the lack of quality on the depth chart, not peppers.

Carolina offered him the deal he probably should have taken, but he turned it down. Nobody will offer that kind of deal again unless he breaks the single season sack record this year. That alone seems to indicate that he did not make the best business decision he could, let alone the way he and his agent handled the franchise tag. The Panthers management have plenty of reasons to permit Peppers to play this year under the tag for 17 million. They keep an All Star looking for a new contract on a D-line that is vulnerable that might be either traded or re-signed in the future.

[ed bell]

Good post. I'd also add we overpaid for Jordan Gross this offseason, yet no one EVER brings that up. Peppers & Gross didnt put a gun to the organizations head and make them give them the money, they did it on their own accord.

Nobody brings that up because nobody thinks that giving up a young All Star OL would have been a good idea for a team that needs a solid O-Line.

[Cyberjag]

Good post. I'd also add we overpaid for Jordan Gross this offseason, yet no one EVER brings that up. Peppers & Gross didnt put a gun to the organizations head and make them give them the money, they did it on their own accord.

Left tackles are typically the second highest paid players on the roster. Gross is a pro-bowl left tackle, and he probably would have gotten more had he hit the open market. We didn't overpay for him, we paid market rate.

[Jangler]

What veteran replacement at DE would we have had a shot at?

And are you aware that Philadelphia schemed with an eye towards masking Dawkins' deficiencies in coverage? If we wanted to find an older, slow guy with leadership who can hit hard, why not get Derrick Brooks and covert him? He would be just as effective.

I'm just curious...

Richard Seymour, duh.

[Squirrel]

child please

Been watching Hard Knocks.

[frash.exe]

Left tackles are typically the second highest paid players on the roster. Gross is a pro-bowl left tackle, and he probably would have gotten more had he hit the open market. We didn't overpay for him, we paid market rate.

Gross got paid money because he was white

[Dpantherman]

anyone that wants to argue in circles about this might as well just Kiss the Baby.

[jramsey4]

Richard Seymour, duh.

Or on a serious note Canty or Brenard. The Giants now have the scariest and deepest Dline in the League. And I doubt they make as Pep all put together. This FO IMHO screwed up majorly here. How many cases of the Super Bowl contenders each year letting overpriced aging players walk or trading them for whatever they could get. I guarantee someone in this league offered up a 1st for him, maybe more, and we should have taken it.

And BTW we wouldn't have cut him in the off-season. His contract was up and he was a FA.

[Jangler]

If somebody offered up a 1st for him, it was offered to him and his "agent" and he didn't sign the tender or tell the team about it...sheeeeessshhhhh......Is Sunday here yet?