Training Masks....

[electro's horse]

I havent attempted to figure out the science behind the mask, but to me, i would think it serves a similar purpose as a weighted vest or those weights that you put on the end of a baseball bat while youre taking practice swings.  If you practice under harsher conditions, then the actual game seems a little easier.  Is there no validity to that?

The mask is trying to simulate lower air pressure, which it can't really do. To think of it another way, if you wanted to get training benefits from this, if you actually believed you were going to breathe better in your workouts or what have you, then you would wear this thing all the damn time, then take it off when it was time to perform. Wearing it only when you exercise decreases the intensity of the workout and over a long enough time frame is going to negatively impact your gains/results/whatever. 

Hypoxia training in VERY controlled environment has produced mixed results at best, and these are with actual machines limiting the amount of oxygen the body can receive. When they're wearing masks there's no appreciable difference. 

Baseball players having that donut on their bat is a mental thing more than anything else. Obviously you're not going to train with a heavier bat (will throw off your timing) and having it for some practices swings in the on deck circle isn't going to appreciably strengthen you. 

Weight vest training, again, is something good to switch it up and make something harder, but isn't going to appreciably change how you move. A lot of that stuff (battle ropes, flipping tires, weight vests) is just poo that casuals think look cool and give their money to mma/crossfit/EXTREME gyms or whatever. 

[electro's horse]

No you don't take more breaths for the same amount of oxygen. I'm at 6000' right now and it's still 20.9% oxygen. I've already covered this but no one fuging reads. 

It has nothing to do with the content of oxygen in the air, it's the air pressure pushing air into your lungs when you inhale. This is not a complicated concept. 

[PandaPancake]

It has nothing to do with the content of oxygen in the air, it's the air pressure pushing air into your lungs when you inhale. This is not a complicated concept. 

Might want to check what you're defending. I have to take twice as many breaths as someone at sea level?

You people are dumb. But I'm just as big of an idiot for even trying to educate. DIAF

[electro's horse]

Might want to check what you're defending. I have to take twice as many breaths as someone at sea level?

You are going to get less oxygen per breath at higher altitudes due to lower air pressure. 

It is the opposite reason you breathe special mixtures of oxygen when you go diving. Breathing the normal mixture of oxygen would basically kill you. 

[electro's horse]

Because the last time I was at Big Bear, I got my ass kicked when I even attempted to do some light running, grappling and boxing. I was done 10 minutes in. Upon returning, I lasted at least 9 minutes longer (almost double) and I wasn't gasping for air.

Then you trained for nine months and did better. It's not like you did particularly well the first time so you had plenty of room for improvement. 

You don't need a magical mask to be less mediocre. 

[Moorgan]

Then you trained for nine months and did better. It's not like you did particularly well the first time so you had plenty of room for improvement. 

You don't need a magical mask to be less mediocre. 

That's awfully presumptuous. Sparring is an incredibly draining activity. His level of fitness was a constant relatively as far as I was concerned.

The fact that, in his experience it changed HOW he breathed by forcing him to breath through his nose longer during periods of exertion is what is of interest to me. That alone can make a big difference in performance if you mostly breathed through your mouth before hand.

And you are also ridiculously condescending...for no apparent reason. Logging on doesn't mean you have to check your civility at the door.

[goodoleboy]

No you don't take more breaths for the same amount of oxygen. I'm at 6000' right now and it's still 20.9% oxygen. I've already covered this but no one fuging reads. 

Well lets just say a person going from sea level to 6,000 feet will find themselves more winded at altitude doing the same work load. The mask restricts the air flow requiring the athlete to take deeper breaths. This trains the core muscles involved. Swimmers have done this for years using snorkels. Some even have clips on the top that you can close the tube to restrict air flow more.

http://www.stack.com/2009/02/01/holding-your-breath-with-texas-am-swimming/

 

[arbnranger]

Well lets just say a person going from sea level to 6,000 feet will find themselves more winded at altitude doing the same work load. The mask restricts the air flow requiring the athlete to take deeper breaths. This trains the core muscles involved. Swimmers have done this for years using snorkels. Some even have clips on the top that you can close the tube to restrict air flow more.

http://www.stack.com/2009/02/01/holding-your-breath-with-texas-am-swimming/

 

I agree in a way. Like with any muscle, resistance training increases capacity. The intercostal and other respiration muscles will get stronger with increased exertion. However in high elevation it's more about profusion rather than muscle capacity. So although the percentage of oxygen in the atmosphere is the same, the thinner air means there is less oxygen to breathe.

Panda, school us a little in cave man terms. i get confused when i try to explain it.

[jasonluckydog]

Thanks for my new screen saver