Part of Gettleman's MO

[Fox007]

Sorry to burst your bubble but JR and Getts will both be dead/invalid within 5 to 7.

Let me in on dem lotto #s yo

[Cyberjag]

You and I will never agree on the bolded part.

Hurney seemed to be solid in the 1st, but after that.....whew.

Totally agree with that statement.  In the first he was money, in later rounds he was almost exactly average.  There's no doubt that Gettleman is looking like a genius with his strategy, but because of the first round hits Hurney was an above average drafter overall as a GM.  Note that I'm not taking stupid draft day trades into account here, what I'm really speaking to is the decisions he made based on the work his scouts did. :)

[Ricky Spanish]

Totally agree with that statement.  In the first he was money, in later rounds he was almost exactly average.  There's no doubt that Gettleman is looking like a genius with his strategy, but because of the first round hits Hurney was an above average drafter overall as a GM.  Note that I'm not taking stupid draft day trades into account here, what I'm really speaking to is the decisions he made based on the work his scouts did. :)

And I disagree with you here. After 2008, Hurney sucked at drafting. Trades have to be taken into consideration becuase they impact who you draft. 

Even without his trades, his drafts are ABYSMAL post 08. Wasting top 100 picks constantly each year does not make him above average. He was definitely below average. 

[Pejorative Miscreant]

Actually, Gettleman has praised our scouting staff and did not replace them.  Most have been around for years (Director of College Scouting Don Gregory was hired in 2006, for example).  One thing Gettleman DID do was change scouting services from National Scouting Services to BLESTO in 2014.  Those guys are the ones who winnow down the thousands of potential draft picks to the smaller pool that team scouts actually look at.

The reason we've enjoyed our stability in scouting is that our guys are plain good.  You can knock on Hurney all you want, but his mistakes in the draft were generally around either trading away picks or drafting for need.  There were times when he did something that would make you scratch your head, like picking Ryan Kalil, but overall the selections he DID make were pretty good--and that's because of the quality of the draft board these guys help put together.

So no, Gettleman didn't fire any of the scouts.  Rather, he's praised them and made them look even more effective in their jobs by employing a strict BPA philosophy and emphasizing areas that have resulted in a pretty freaking talented team.  Those guys have been good for us for years.

I think you nailed it here. Good team of s outs but G seems to have really aligned the evaluation process which makes the scouts input a lot more valuable. Process is not 100% fool proof but it looks like the hits are pretty good. 

[Paa Langfart]

Sorry to burst your bubble but JR and Getts will both be dead/invalid within 5 to 7.

 

Just SMDH