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Arizona or Greenbay?

CamMoon

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8 hours ago, Carolina Cajun said:

There's more to football than a QB.  GB's defense is awful, and their run game isn't good.  On the flip side, Zona has an average QB, average RB, and pretty much top tier talent EVERYWHERE else.  Zona is the ONLY team that truly worries me amongst the remaining teams in the playoffs.  We're better, but not by enough that I think we could absorb a negative turnover game.

Arizona has an elite QB. He is a top 3 MVP candidate. If you don't pressure him, he will slice up a defense. 

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16 hours ago, Carolina Cajun said:

There's more to football than a QB.  GB's defense is awful, and their run game isn't good.  On the flip side, Zona has an average QB, average RB, and pretty much top tier talent EVERYWHERE else.  Zona is the ONLY team that truly worries me amongst the remaining teams in the playoffs.  We're better, but not by enough that I think we could absorb a negative turnover game.

Average QB?? wow.. These are exactly the types of comments that can make a fan base sound stupid.

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52 minutes ago, EightyNine said:

Average QB?? wow.. These are exactly the types of comments that can make a fan base sound stupid.

Yup, 11 years in the NFL, 0 playoff wins, 3 teams (sent packing from the previous 2 teams), had 22 int's in a season just 2 years ago.  Until this year, he hadn't been to a pro bowl in nearly a decade.  His flaws are still there as well as his strength's, IE, he's a slinger who has a strong arm and likes to throw the ball down the field and he can do that in an Arians offense well...so yes, by NFL standards he is an average QB who had his career year at age 36, but a system will only hide his flaws as well as father time catching up to him this late in the season, oh and it doesn't hurt to have two 1000 yard receivers.  Sorry if I can look at a situation and form my own opinions before running them by you.

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4 minutes ago, Carolina Cajun said:

Yup, 11 years in the NFL, 0 playoff wins, 3 teams (sent packing from the previous 2 teams), had 22 int's in a season just 2 years ago.  Until this year, he hadn't been to a pro bowl in nearly a decade.  His flaws are still there as well as his strength's, IE, he's a slinger who has a strong arm and likes to throw the ball down the field and he can do that in an Arians offense well...so yes, by NFL standards he is an average QB who had his career year at age 36, but a system will only hide his flaws as well as father time catching up to him this late in the season, oh and it doesn't hurt to have two 1000 yard receivers.  Sorry if I can look at a situation and form my own opinions before running them by you.

You can absolutely can have your own opinions and you dont have to run them by me.. but i can also have the opinion that your opinion is stupid.

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21 hours ago, Carolina Cajun said:

Yup, 11 years in the NFL, 0 playoff wins, 3 teams (sent packing from the previous 2 teams), had 22 int's in a season just 2 years ago.  Until this year, he hadn't been to a pro bowl in nearly a decade.  His flaws are still there as well as his strength's, IE, he's a slinger who has a strong arm and likes to throw the ball down the field and he can do that in an Arians offense well...so yes, by NFL standards he is an average QB who had his career year at age 36, but a system will only hide his flaws as well as father time catching up to him this late in the season, oh and it doesn't hurt to have two 1000 yard receivers.  Sorry if I can look at a situation and form my own opinions before running them by you.

You can pick and choose numbers to make them say whatever you want.. Trust me, if i wanted to, i could go find a bunch of stats that say you're wrong and that Palmer is a much better than average QB.

Remember earlier this year, when people were comparing Cam's numbers to Kaepernick's so that people could argue that Cam was just average??  You are doing the exact same thing when you try to argue that Palmer is an average QB.  The guy is playing great, and you dont win as many games as he has the past few seasons and get into the MVP conversation by accident.  I'm telling you, its not a good look when you say that stuff.  Just give credit when its due, so that you dont sound like an ignorant homer.

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On 1/15/2016 at 9:13 AM, EightyNine said:

You can pick and choose numbers to make them say whatever you want.. Trust me, if i wanted to, i could go find a bunch of stats that say you're wrong and that Palmer is a much better than average QB.

Remember earlier this year, when people were comparing Cam's numbers to Kaepernick's so that people could argue that Cam was just average??  You are doing the exact same thing when you try to argue that Palmer is an average QB.  The guy is playing great, and you dont win as many games as he has the past few seasons and get into the MVP conversation by accident.  I'm telling you, its not a good look when you say that stuff.  Just give credit when its due, so that you dont sound like an ignorant homer.

I rest my case. AVERAGE QB.

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