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Lets get this out the way, Panthers Are Not Going To The SB Without Josh

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Defense wins championships, defense allows you to get to the championship. That's the side of the ball you don't want to lose talent at. This is not comparable to KB

It's not like we still don't have two pro bowl LB's, KK/Star, CJ back, Bene/Boykin, the true mastermind behind the defense in Rivera, and a whole draft left. And oh yeah, I forgot, the #1 offense going into the season, an MVP at QB, and our beast WR coming back. Gettleman has turned us into a true contender EVERY YEAR in just 3 years, I don't know why people are still doubting the Executive of the year.

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Not a very good thread.

But the reality of the situation is, we didn't get over the hump until we finally had some elite level secondary play.

Thinking that we can merely plug anyone in there, and coast back to the Super Bowl is a wee bit of wishful thinking.

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1 minute ago, TheRed said:

Not a very good thread.

But the reality of the situation is, we didn't get over the hump until we finally had some elite level secondary play.

Thinking that we can merely plug anyone in there, and coast back to the Super Bowl is a wee bit of wishful thinking.

We didn't get over the hump until we finally got some above average O-line play tbh. Although elite secondary made us into a juggernaut, we are still in very good shape.

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8 minutes ago, Castavar said:

It's not like we still don't have two pro bowl LB's, KK/Star, CJ back, Bene/Boykin, the true mastermind behind the defense in Rivera, and a whole draft left. And oh yeah, I forgot, the #1 offense going into the season, an MVP at QB, and our beast WR coming back. Gettleman has turned us into a true contender EVERY YEAR in just 3 years, I don't know why people are still doubting the Executive of the year.

I'm not doubting him. I'm not doubting the team, I just believe this loss knocked us from going and winning SB 51. The comments about Josh benefiting from our pass rush is ridiculous. Josh last year with or without a pass rush held his own. Josh play was the reason offenses and QB's didn't even throw to him. Teams game-planned around Josh, and it helped us tremendously. This season a lot of people are going to see that. Possible our pass rush could get even better, but I doubt it. I look at Ealy breaking out, CJ doing what CJ did last year, KK still dominating and that's it. No rookie brought it at 30th is going to dominate not from DL perspective 

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2 minutes ago, Castavar said:

We didn't get over the hump until we finally got some above average O-line play tbh. Although elite secondary made us into a juggernaut, we are still in very good shape.

Might want to go watch some highlights of that OL in SB50. That's if you can stomach it.

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Might want to go watch some highlights of that OL in SB50. That's if you can stomach it.

One game doesn't define your season (even if it was the biggest game of the year). O-line dominated the whole season, except for one game, which is what propelled us to making the big game. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Castavar said:

One game doesn't define your season

I'm sorry, no offense, but I couldn't disagree more.

The Championship of the sport is not "one game". We blew it. Those 15 wins mean dick if we aren't hoisting the Lombardi in Charlotte, and I would trade every fugging one of them for that trophy if it came down it. That is what these guys play for.

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Josh had little to do with the Super Bowl appearance. Rivera's scheme and the culture have much more to do with it. Josh will be average at best playing somewhere else. He's a lot like Hardy, he believes he is better than he is. 

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11 minutes ago, TheRed said:

I'm sorry, no offense, but I couldn't disagree more.

The Championship of the sport is not "one game". We blew it. Those 15 wins mean dick if we aren't hoisting the Lombardi in Charlotte, and I would trade every fugging one of them for that trophy if it came down it. That is what these guys play for.

While true, we still had an amazing season and you can't throw those 15 wins out. Before us, 6 teams went 15-1 and only 2 won the SB. So right now 15-1 teams are now 2-7 in SB games

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