We Threw Hardy Under the Bus, but We Just Drafted A Guy With the Same Red Flag

[The Lone Panther]

Would love to have Hardy back, but you would have a better chance of getting Kim Kardashian to stop taking selfies than that to happen. 

[PhillyB]

50 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

And to be clear this wasn't about bringing Hardy back per se, it's illustrating the huddle groupthink at work.  Hardy was written off as a woman beater (bka a career killer) and an idiot (which he may be).  But, he was a damn good player.  He went downhill in Dallas and many rejoiced because they saw it as vindication for letting him go.

Now, we draft a guy under basically the same circumstances that Hardy went through, and those same people sticking up for poor Nicole Holder are now fine with the new addition and it's no big deal because he defended his girlfriend.  Understood.

by "basically under the same circumstances" do you mean "totally different circumstances?"

[Proudiddy]

21 minutes ago, TheRed said:

I'm sorry, but anyone still clinging to this Greg Hardy poo this far down the road now needs to seriously re-evaluate their life.

The poo is over. He isn't coming back. Grow up.

Believe me, I'm clear on him not ever coming back.

Again, I'm pointing out that we seem to be making rules as we go.

[Proudiddy]

7 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

by "basically under the same circumstances" do you mean "totally different circumstances?"

Is putting one's hands, as a male, on a female, resulting in bodily injury not the behavior alleged in both cases?

[PhillyB]

1 minute ago, Proudiddy said:

Is putting one's hands, as a male, on a female, resulting in bodily injury not the behavior alleged in both cases?

if the goal is to be as reductionist as possible, than yes, they are the exact same crime.

[Kuhndog94]

46 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yes, due to a plea deal.  Not certain if they were actually dropped or if the conviction was expunged. 

 

The charges were dropped and the conviction WAS expunged from his record. He says it in the audio file with Dave Gettleman. He even met with the Big Cat and they grilled him while he was here. 

[IGSaint]

This is just a whole lot of nothing. Gettleman and Richardson vetted him and that's all we need. 

[Kuhndog94]

4 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

Is putting one's hands, as a male, on a female, resulting in bodily injury not the behavior alleged in both cases?

 

1 minute ago, PhillyB said:

if the goal is to be as reductionist as possible, than yes, they are the exact same crime.

One is taking an extra cookie from the sample box at Harris Teeter and the other is robbing a bank. 

Essentially the same thing because it results in lost assets for both companies. 

[Willis1789]

2 hours ago, SupercaMVP said:

RESIGN HARDY, RESIGN HARDY!

RESIGN HARDY! 
 

 

[Proudiddy]

Okay, Kuhn and Philly, how many times have you pushed a female down to the ground by the throat?

So, we're accepting this as commonplace and acceptable now?

I'm not saying people don't make mistakes, but this sliding scale of morality has become heavily greased tonight, lol.

[PhillyB]

2 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

Okay, Kuhn and Philly, how many times have you pushed a female down to the ground by the throat?

So, we're accepting this as commonplace and acceptable now?

I'm not saying people don't make mistakes, but this sliding scale of morality has become heavily greased tonight, lol.

you just shifted the goalposts by a country mile pd. we aren't necessarily arguing that it's acceptable, but that they're not the same thing. you can parse from there, but framing it as the exact same thing rather than differing degrees is a losing strategy.

[rayzor]

i know this is.  crazy idea, but maybe.....just MAYBE the team/FO was tired of hardy's act before the whole DV thing came out and that was the last straw  and if that wasn't the last straw then maybe it was what hardy did after all the decisions were made that made them go, "ok....we're done here."

and maybe they saw something in this young kid's attitude  characterthey didnt see in hardy, which was a desire and ability to grow up/mature after his incident.

 

just maybe.....

[rayzor]

also, its likely the panthers didnt throw him under a bus ( i mean they paid him $15mil to sit at home) but they got tired of him running out in front of buses and thought it just wasn't worth the expense.

either way, the team got tired of him and let him be someone else's expensive headache. by the long throng of possible suitors (or lack thereof) really bobody wants that headache.

[Captain Obvious]

6 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm not religious.  I just don't think men should assault women.

what about the women in combat?