Are we officially free of all of Huney's contracts?

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

13 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

And Thomas Davis and Kalil and Charles Johnson, and Stewart and brought in Tolbert and traded for Greg Olsen<--- which is still the most impressive move this team has ever made. 

So yea he was only responsible for 80% of the pro bowlers on the team last year. But bow down to the mighty Dave. 

hey did u guyz kno hurney And Thomas Davis and Kalil and Charles Johnson, and Stewart and brought in Tolbert and traded for Greg Olsen<--- which is still the most impressive move this team has ever made. 

[AceBoogie]

1 minute ago, RoaringRiot said:

Remind me....why is it that you have GMan so much?

I don't hate him. I know it comes across that way, but I don't. I think he's full of himself, I don't think he's as good as most here believe. I think he's made some awful mistakes like releasing Steve Smith(who proved he could still play and help a team win) releasing Josh Norman(who was a home grown product) and I think just like the Steve Smith decision, the Josh Norman mistake will be masked by the greatness of Cam and Luke neither of which he drafted. 

The short answer is I believe he gets too much credit and Marty too much blame. I called my wife happy the day he got fired because he deserved to be fired. I see him on one side of the extreme and Dave on the other side of that extreme with the ideal GM somewhere in the middle. 

I applaud some of the moves he's made but he's been afforded the benefit of having such a strong foundation to build on. People here act like he does no wrong and when he makes a decision that people don't agree with its "trust Gettleman" when it's really trust Cam and Luke will cover his ass on the field. 

[uncfan888]

Igo needs to set up a subsection called Hurney's heroes where ace and cpk and his alt can go bash gettleman while they worship an effigy of marty

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

Not really Hurney was a bad GM but not because of how he drafted 

Hurney drafted well in the first round. After that, to call it "hit or miss" would be a compliment.

And the trading away of future picks for guys like Armanti Edwards and Everette Brown (plus almost Jimmy Clausen) ugh!

[AceBoogie]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

An NFL GM builds a roster of 53 players, not 8.

Hurney's 53 man rosters got us 3 playoff appearances in 11 years. Gettleman has matched that, including the Super Bowl, in his first 3 seasons.

Another winning season this year and we'll have our first back to back years plus he'll surpass Hurney's playoff tally with 7 years left to go.

Any argument that Hurney was a better GM is ridiculous to the point of absolute stupidity.

Yet you will never find anything stating I said he was a better GM

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

wow, it's a good thing we live in a universe where cam and luke are on this team then

i'm working on my time machine and when i'm done i'll hop to an alternate timeline where cam is a bill and we drafted fletcher cox in the first in 2012 and let you know how things are going

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

I don't hate him. I know it comes across that way, but I don't. I think he's full of himself, I don't think he's as good as most here believe. I think he's made some awful mistakes like releasing Steve Smith(who proved he could still play and help a team win) releasing Josh Norman(who was a home grown product) and I think just like the Steve Smith decision, the Josh Norman mistake will be masked by the greatness of Cam and Luke neither of which he drafted. 

The short answer is I believe he gets too much credit and Marty too much blame. I called my wife happy the day he got fired because he deserved to be fired. I see him on one side of the extreme and Dave on the other side of that extreme with the ideal GM somewhere in the middle. 

I applaud some of the moves he's made but he's been afforded the benefit of having such a strong foundation to build on. People here act like he does no wrong and when he makes a decision that people don't agree with its "trust Gettleman" when it's really trust Cam and Luke will cover his ass on the field. 

The "strong foundation" had consecutive losing seasons before Gettleman took over.

[AceBoogie]

8 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

They need to set a new rule in the NFL that whenever a new gm is hired, they have to rebuild the entire team from scratch. 

Get over yourself. Gettleman >>>> hurney

And you like most here miss the point, I challenge you in anybody else here to find one post in my history where I state Hurney is a better GM. 

[AceBoogie]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

The "strong foundation" had consecutive losing seasons before Gettleman took over.

Missing the point

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

the amount of piss and vinegar in your posts makes it seem like you hate gettleman on a very deep, very emotional level.  that's why people attack you over it.

[AceBoogie]

3 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

Igo needs to set up a subsection called Hurney's heroes where ace and cpk and his alt can go bash gettleman while they worship an effigy of marty

Again nobody is worshiping Hurney, you guys are so simple minded sometimes it's like you think you have to like one or the other. Gettleman has been successful largely because of what he inherited in Cam, Luke, and others. Does that mean I'd rather have hurney? No

[AceBoogie]

1 minute ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

the amount of piss and vinegar in your posts makes it seem like you hate gettleman on a very deep, very emotional level.  that's why people attack you over it.

I'm here for people to attack me, I'm not a sheep. 

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

7 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

I'm here for people to attack me, I'm not a sheep. 

someone disagreeing with your hot takes doesn't make them a sheep

[AceBoogie]

Just now, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

someone disagreeing with your hot takes doesn't make them a sheep

What I mean is that I'm not afraid to go against what is popular opinion. A lot of people here that don't know me think I'm not a real fan because I disagree at times with the management of this team. I'm not afraid of being attacked, in fact I welcome it. I love the discussion and I love this team and I'm going to speak my mind like I encourage anyone to do that disagrees with me.