What will a Gettleman post-season presser sound like...

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7 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Yes, and it's up to our coaching to adjust.

Again, Seattle continues to prove why they are consistent: stellar coaching.

No matter what happens (UDFA and rookie filled OL, Wilson getting injured, losing Thomas for the season, not having Rawls healthy for majority of the season, etc), they still manage to win. We don't.

it's the NFL.  If you lineup vs better talent....you lose more than you win.

Seattle wins because they consistently have one of the best defenses in the NFL year after year (and it ain't coaching because they probably play the most predictable and basic D of all teams in the NFL)

[ncfan]

1 hour ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Outside not drafting a DE and SS, not much is his fault.

- Oher is likely done in the NFL.

- Kalil and Gino went to IR.

- Williams is hurt, forcing Turner to play OT while regressing.

- Cam getting targeted by opposing defenses.

- Benjamin and Ealy acting like high school kids.

- Gano missing easy FGs and XPs.

- Kuechly receiving a scary concussion (forcing him out of the rest of season)

- Short being invisible for the first half of the campaign.

The buck stops at unfortunate injuries and horrible coaching. Not lack of talent. 

 

This.  The Norman issue sucked but it's a long term move.  Remember gettleman has said all along he wants a team that's built for long term success.  Norman may have been all-pro for us again this year and next but with his age could drop real fast in 2 years. Just look at Regis in NY this year.  Then we'd be stuck with his big contract and probably unable to re sign our 2 guards. And if you think Remmers is bad image 2 of them trying block inside with a young unproven Center (when Kalil retires),  Cams career would go real fast (luckily enough we'd probably be bad enough and get another top pick to get his replacement).  Bradberry hasn't looked bad for a rookie, he's already about where Norman was year 3.

 

injuries

oher the LT was a solid player last year and was chosen as a first alternate for a pro bowler.  Now you have Remmers there, of course it's going to be a drop off. That's out of the front offices hands.

Remmers was a solid RT last year.  Once Stewart (who has been injury prone his whole career) went out.  Our running game took a large.  Cam can run but isn't your primary rusher.  You take away the running game it puts a TON of pressure on the line to protect those pass rushers who can pin back not worrying about the rush.  And when it is against a top tier elites historically, it's going to be a poo storm even for a OL like Dallas's

Then you throw in Kalil going out and have to put in a unproven backup, then another one who has never snapped a ball since probably high school.  Then have to slide you OG to OT.  There's nothing you can do.

 

Then you add in Tolbert who took a major drop off (see the age and why you should be wary with age and Norman).  2 Fumbles in the Super Bowl that were costly turnovers. Now Zero blocking (which is a disaster when you throw in the shape of our OL), Zero run or reviving threat (what's the defense have to worry about now they can focus on other guys)

 

Now the coaching staff still has Major issues, i point a Lot of it on Shula.  We get it. There are a ton of injuries, it sucks and hard to overcome.  But when you make Zero adjustments and just sit and complain about the injuries, instead of trying something different.  When your sitting there vanilla and your losing, some players can get antsy especially with a younger team, that carries to the locker room and can hurt the team.

 Some people here must have been watching some Whole different team last year. WITH Norman last year we still had close calls.  Time after Time after Time we squeaked by with wins when other teams came back.

see Indy, Philly, Greenbay, Saints, Giants, Seattle playoffs, and just hung onto Houston W.  We had big leads, went conservative in the 2nd half and that same defense that had Norman got Wrecked in the 2nd half like a 7 on 7 camp.  We had big leads, we don't have big leads any more where we can hold onto.  

[grimesgoat]

42 minutes ago, bLACKpANTHER said:

I mostly agree but he has ignored the 'talent' depth on the Oline for some time now.. we all knew the CBs were going to struggle and the defense wasn't going to be as good without Josh.. The offense is what threw me and the rest of us for a loop.. when that Oline blew up in our faces - that's when the excuses become easy, but our struggles were well documented before it all went to sh!t..

Gman could have kept Josh and gotten one more solid OT/OG instead of banking on the patchwork Oline made up of UDFAs and journeymen..

What struggles were well documented?  We were 17-2 last year.

If there was an all-pro left tackle willing to sign a 1-year contract to back up Michael Oher for $4 million or so, you really should have spoken up.

For those who forget, we tagged Norman March 1.  When free agency started a week later.  If we don't tag him, he walks.  If we tag him, we commit $14 million.  We did the latter, leaving us with about $4 mil for free agents.  While Josh was pussy-footing around, turning down $11 million per year from his "favorite" team and not bothering to sign the tag, we are completely hamstrung to improve the team in a significant way. Finally we cut bait. All the best free agents are gone.  We are able to extend Oher (who did actually want to be here) only because we moved on from Norman.  Personally I'd rather pay Oher $7 mil per year for 3 years then pay Josh $14 for 1 year playing in a zone. 

Then Oher gets hurt in game 3.  At the time we were a field goal away from being 2-0 and in a tight game with Minn. One would think Oher would be back in 2-3 weeks and we'd get moving again, but he never made it back.  Then Kalil got hurt and it was all over.  We don't know if Dave tried to sign any of the all-pro linemen sitting on their couches at home, but that will not stop us from assuming he didn't even try.

I agree it sounds like excuses, but it did actually happen.

[bigdog10]

I don't know how it will start but I hope to hear him utter the phrase "we want to thank Mike Shula for his time here in Carolina and wish him the best in his future endeavors".