Mel Kiper Believes Dalvin Cook Will Fall Into The 2nd Round

[Confined9991]

5 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Cook was not that productive and has off field issues. McCaffrey lead the NCAA in all purpose yard and was only a junior. He is only going to get better. Stanford runs a combination of West coast, spread and a traditional running attack.  Go.look at field and watch how many yards McCaffrey gets after the catch and after first contact. Folks who don't like him haven't seen him play. It reminds of how many folks criticized Kuechly because he played for Boston college and folks didn't realize how talented he was.

Cooks wasn't that productive? LOLWAT

[MV%doe]

Cook has three giant red flags- three shoulder surgeries, thug best friends, and bad athletic numbers.

[LinvilleGorge]

6 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Cook was not that productive and has off field issues. McCaffrey lead the NCAA in all purpose yard and was only a junior. He is only going to get better. Stanford runs a combination of West coast, spread and a traditional running attack.  Go.look at field and watch how many yards McCaffrey gets after the catch and after first contact. Folks who don't like him haven't seen him play. It reminds of how many folks criticized Kuechly because he played for Boston college and folks didn't realize how talented he was.

I'm not on the Cook bandwagon, but it's insanity to say that he "was not that productive". He never had less than 1000 yards from scrimmage in his college career. In his final two years, he went for 1935 yards and 20 TDs and 2253 yards and 20 TDs.

That's fairly productive.

[panthers55]

2 minutes ago, Confined9991 said:

Cooks wasn't that productive? LOLWAT

Compared to McCaffrey the answer is no. The numbers don't lie

[LinvilleGorge]

Not very productive? Bad athletic numbers?

Good grief y'all, we can argue against the guy without just making stuff up.

[TheSpecialJuan]

no

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Compared to McCaffrey the answer is no. The numbers don't lie

Cook's three seasons...

5399 yards from scrimmage, 48 TDs

McCaffrey's three seasons...

5128 yards from scrimmage, 31 TDs

What in the actual fug are you talking about???

[panthers55]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm not on the Cook bandwagon, but it's insanity to say that he "was not that productive". He never had less than 1000 yards from scrimmage in his college career. In his final two years, he went for 1935 yards and 20 TDs and 2253 yards and 20 TDs.

That's fairly productive.

But compared to McCaffrey which was the comparison he was one dimensional and not as productive. Obviously you don't get to be a first or second rounder if you aren't a good player so I am not saying he sucks simply that he wasn't more productive than McCaffrey nor will he be more productive in the NFL. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, panthers55 said:

But compared to McCaffrey which was the comparison he was one dimensional and not as productive. Obviously you don't get to be a first or second rounder if you aren't a good player so I am not saying he sucks simply that he wasn't more productive than McCaffrey nor will he be more productive in the NFL. 

Look at the numbers I just posted. You're demonstrably incorrect here.

[MV%doe]

22 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Not very productive? Bad athletic numbers?

Good grief y'all, we can argue against the guy without just making stuff up.

Panthers very own RB cap posted better combine numbers than cook except for 40. He had a terrible three cone. He has a -1.3 SPARQ score....You mainly want +50 and up.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, MV%doe said:

Panthers very RB cap posted better combine numbers than cook except for 40. He had a terrible three cone. He has a -1.3 SPARQ score....You mainly want +50 and up.

This SPARQ stuff - like most things that attempt to be the end all be all of analysis - is getting to be a bit overhyped. 

[MV%doe]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This SPARQ stuff - like most things that attempt to be the end all be all of analysis - is getting to be a bit overhyped. 

It's part of the formula, always has been. SPARQ just sums up the combine. Most thought cook would kill the combine, he did the opposite. Either he's not as athletic or very lazy for the biggest job interview. 

[countryboi]

Panthers very RB cap posted better combine numbers than cook except for 40. He had a terrible three cone. He has a -1.3 SPARQ score....You mainly want +50 and up.

I can look at his game tape and tell you at any give time, he was always the best athlete on the field. I don't doubt his combine numbers are not as good as expected but I wouldn't get caught up in SPARQ numbers over game film.

Cook is going to be an elite back in this league


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[LinvilleGorge]

I'm not so sure he's going to be an elite NFL RB but if he isn't it won't have anything to do with his lack of ability.