Seems like common sense to me, but why don't QB's go short to long on their reads?

[PrimeTimeHeel]

Considering the longer you hold on to the ball the more bad things happen. Seems to me QBs would want to get the ball out quick (within 3 seconds) every play. 

Now, obviously I do not mean every time as certain down and distances mandate making different reads ie 3rd and long. 

So many times we see Cam with an open WR/TE or HB short for a nice positive gain, but yet he seems to usually look deep and try to force things into coverage and or completely miss the short open reads and ends up getting sacked and or just throw up a low % bomb. 

Make the D take away short THEN the middle and deep stuff will open up more. 

[Mikey815]

Yes Cam is quite guilty of this. If he took the layups he would be much more successful as would the team. He is still a threat because of his physical ability but need ma to be smarter in this regard.

[pantherclaw]

Natual progression. 

Of course, certain playcalls feature a particular player/route, especially against certain coverages, and that will be the first read, regardless whether it long, intermediate, or short.

 

[PrimeTimeHeel]

It is not fancy or dazzling, but it is effective and keeps the chains moving. 

Take the layup. Force the D to cover short and take away all the drags, flats, hitches, curls, ins, outs etc. 

[PrimeTimeHeel]

1 minute ago, pantherclaw said:

Natual progression. 

Of course, certain playcalls feature a particular player/route, especially against certain coverages, and that will be the first read, regardless whether it long, intermediate, or short.

 

You do not know what the actual coverage is, so it doesnt really matter.

As I said, unless its 3rd and long, you reads should always be short to long. 

Take what the D gives you. If the D is going to give you 4 yards on a quick throw to the flats or a shallow drag take it. 

[Gipetto]

the bombs on 3rd and short need to stop. if the man is open go for but if you got cmc open on a crossing route give him a chance to get the first

[LinvilleGorge]

West coast offenses typically do. Our offense rarely does.

[pantherclaw]

Just now, PrimeTimeHeel said:

You do not know what the actual coverage is, so it doesnt really matter.

As I said, unless its 3rd and long, you reads should always be short to long. 

Take what the D gives you. If the D is going to give you 4 yards on a quick throw to the flats or a shallow drag take it. 

Lol. 

Not worth arguing with you.

[ColumbusCounty]

Line of sight maybe?.. .progressions?..  

I gotta say though, I'm pretty sure this is the most I've ever seen Cam checkdown.

[PrimeTimeHeel]

3 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

Lol. 

Not worth arguing with you.

Or maybe you can't. 

If you do however, think you can actually describe why feel free to pop back in. 

[Diehardpanther02]

3 minutes ago, PrimeTimeHeel said:

You do not know what the actual coverage is, so it doesnt really matter.

As I said, unless its 3rd and long, you reads should always be short to long. 

Take what the D gives you. If the D is going to give you 4 yards on a quick throw to the flats or a shallow drag take it. 

Yeah, tell Tom Brady that. Some defenses are disguised coverages but depending on the depth of the corner, single high safeties, 2 deep safeties you can get a general idea of the coverage. For example in cover 2, deep middle should be open so that could possibly be the initial read and then come back to the sidelines in your progression. Really depends on the playcall.

[PrimeTimeHeel]

2 minutes ago, ColumbusCounty said:

Line of sight maybe?.. .progressions?..  

I gotta say though, I'm pretty sure this is the most I've ever seen Cam checkdown.

Cam is 6'5, line of sight shouldnt be an issue. 

Progressions is the reads. 

 

[pantherclaw]

2 minutes ago, PrimeTimeHeel said:

Or maybe you can't. 

If you do however, think you can actually describe why feel free to pop back in. 

I'm  not worried about correcting you with your holier than thou statements. 

[PrimeTimeHeel]

Just now, Diehardpanther02 said:

Yeah, tell Tom Brady that. Some defenses are disguised coverages but depending on the depth of the corner, single high safeties, 2 deep safeties you can get a general idea of the coverage. For example in cover 2, deep middle should be open so that could possibly be the initial read and then come back to the sidelines in your progression. Really depends on the playcall.

Yes, I was talking about the actual full play and assignments. 

Of course you can get some generalities and have an idea of certain things. 

In a cover 2 it depends how deep the MLB drops back. Also there are different variations of cover two. 

Also depends if they are playing hard flats or not. So many variables even if you know whether its cover 2 or 3 etc.