Why Are We Still Missing A Deep Shot Passing Game?

[Snake]

1 hour ago, CarolinaSamurai said:

I think Djax regrets going to TB 

I have no doubt he would have taken less to come here. We didn't even reach out. But damn Tampa has some good WRs to suck so bad. 

[outlaw4]

1. The shoulder - Not convinced it's 100%. Yes, he can still do the intermediates but that elite effortless deep throws like below have been absent:

https://youtu.be/1DT-JEsqzmo

2. Rust - Related to the shoulder. Cam's the type of quarterback that needs to get into a rhythm and missing most of training camp and limited practice raps has made him look at times like it's preseason when he's been historically bad.

3. Receivers - Losing Ted Ginn hurts and it's a decision I did not agree with from the start. Right now, Cam only has Funchess and Dickson as familiar targets from last season. Samuel doesn't have Ted Ginn speed while the one player that does went down. 

4. Bad habits - This is just my personal observation from last year that has carried over into this season but I just have this nagging feeling that Cam releases his deep throws too late nowadays. When I look at his 2015 campaign, it's as though he's not waiting as long to heave it. Today, I cringe if Cam goes deep if it's more than five seconds after the snap. 

[CarolinaSamurai]

49 minutes ago, outlaw4 said:

1. The shoulder - Not convinced it's 100%. Yes, he can still do the intermediates but that elite effortless deep throws like below have been absent:

https://youtu.be/1DT-JEsqzmo

2. Rust - Related to the shoulder. Cam's the type of quarterback that needs to get into a rhythm and missing most of training camp and limited practice raps has made him look at times like it's preseason when he's been historically bad.

3. Receivers - Losing Ted Ginn hurts and it's a decision I did not agree with from the start. Right now, Cam only has Funchess and Dickson as familiar targets from last season. Samuel doesn't have Ted Ginn speed while the one player that does went down. 

4. Bad habits - This is just my personal observation from last year that has carried over into this season but I just have this nagging feeling that Cam releases his deep throws too late nowadays. When I look at his 2015 campaign, it's as though he's not waiting as long to heave it. Today, I cringe if Cam goes deep if it's more than five seconds after the snap. 

I've been saying his deep throws have been inaccurate bc of the shoulder since game 3. I'm glad someone else agrees. It's also why I think the box was stacked so much bc he took so long to do a deep bomb. 

Also the I think 5 relates to 4 bc of trust. Trust the guy will be where he puts it. Or that they know how to overcompensate like Ginn was very good at doing. They knew each other and that's why Ginn did so well here.

[outlaw4]

18 hours ago, CarolinaSamurai said:

I've been saying his deep throws have been inaccurate bc of the shoulder since game 3. I'm glad someone else agrees. It's also why I think the box was stacked so much bc he took so long to do a deep bomb. 

Also the I think 5 relates to 4 bc of trust. Trust the guy will be where he puts it. Or that they know how to overcompensate like Ginn was very good at doing. They knew each other and that's why Ginn did so well here.

Trust is certainly part of the equation. My concern is that at least from what I perceive, his misses are more underthrows than overthrows. 

[Darknight]

On 11/8/2017 at 1:13 AM, iamhubby1 said:

 

    I was wondering if I was seeing thing, because no one else seemed to notice. But man, it looks different this year. Of course it could be because we know what he has gone through, so we may be seeing things. 

 

    That said, man, it sure looks a lot less smooth than I remember.

I can't explain it but it doesn't look right to me. I wish I could find a GIF and I can show you what I'm talking about. 

[iamhubby1]

5 hours ago, Darknight said:

I can't explain it but it doesn't look right to me. I wish I could find a GIF and I can show you what I'm talking about. 

 

    I would be willing to see one or two. Because I just don't think it looks the same. Maybe it's just the fact that we know he has had shoulder trouble. So we could be projecting our fears onto what we see.